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re: The bundling of Internet content has begun and its about to get worse
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:03 am to zatetic
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:03 am to zatetic
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In Britain a group of farmers were tired of their internet options. They decided to lay their own fiber optic cable and get fast internet.
link?
bc all the infrastructure is controlled by BT and Virgin. Unless they tapped into a pipe illegal they didn't just create their own faster internet.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:04 am to Cs
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The data caps exist to create the illusion that there is a limited supply of something (bandwidth), when ultimately there isn't.
Exactly
Data caps are un heard of in other parts of the world.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:11 am to Cs
I still use xmhanster like a boss
I like no data caps
I like no data caps
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:12 am to TJGator1215
Wait, you're telling me that an ISP is incentivizing customers to utilize its other services...and offering the customer something in exchange, which is streaming without data usage?
The horror!
The horror!
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:15 am to Steadyhands
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d be ok with that specific case, because who gives a frick about game of thrones... That's a two way street of supply and demand, which is a slippery slope on its own. If people have to pay to see some show(increasing cost of supply), than the demand for it will go down, decreasing ratings.
You're a moron. The precedent that this sets is scary and will being to affect more than you realize in the future.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:19 am to baldona
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I don't really have an issue with this at all, seems like capitalism. The big companies can charge more for certain sites, but the reality is that competition will most likely make all this all for nothing.
The big companies are grasping for higher profits in the fair market and the market will dictate how that goes. Its a change certainly, but I don't have an issue with it.
So, if youre ok with this then you are saying you would be ok with paying everytime you access tigerdroppings.
The internet should be wide open and free....you should be able to access any website you want regardless of who your ISP is.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:22 am to Steadyhands
quote:They are simply trying to eliminate or hinder any competition or alternative to their high prices
I'd be ok with that specific case, because who gives a frick about game of thrones... That's a two way street of supply and demand, which is a slippery slope on its own. If people have to pay to see some show(increasing cost of supply), than the demand for it will go down, decreasing ratings.
Overall though, this would be bad for the consumer.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:30 am to MontyFranklyn
Websites are bigger, steaming is a big thing now, downloads have gotten huge and ISPs was to use data caps. They are literally going against the rest of the internet and handcuffing it just for profit.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:36 am to tLSU
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Wait, you're telling me that an ISP is incentivizing customers to utilize its other services...and offering the customer something in exchange, which is streaming without data usage?
This is the Internet equivalent of telling Walmart that they should charge the same price for Equate ibuprofen as they do for Advil.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:49 am to Cs
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ISPs have bought most local politicians, so it's illegal in most places for a municipality to start their own internet service.
This is the biggest issue. I have no issue with companies being allowed to let some sites be "free" and some sites "for pay", but the government restricts entry into the market, making it extremely difficult/impossible for a net neutral ISP to provide an alternative.
One poster here keeps calling it capitalism, but it's really corporatism. I'm about as free-market as they come. But until we have a government that truly supports the free market (probably never), then we need net neutrality. Still, I find that NN is basically a bad idea that the government needs to enforce to make up for their own anti-free market regulations.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:55 am to StraightCashHomey21
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/10961754/Villagers-dig-their-own-superfast-broadband-network.html
There are many other articles on it.
There are many other articles on it.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:00 am to TJGator1215
AT&T is an awful company and its re-emergence as a big company is going to be bad for competition.
Zero rating is a BIG loophole.
Zero rating is a BIG loophole.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:45 am to yoga girl
For all the love of capitalism on here and the "MAGA" posted left and right, I'm quite surprised at the ridiculous bitching in this thread, about pure capitalism.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:49 am to TJGator1215
This is a risky move for them (I hope). Hopefully google fiber tears these guys a new a-hole. But I'm less trusting of googles intentions by the day.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:51 am to Cap Crunch
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More competition is better for the consumers
working deals between content providers and data providers is a form of competition
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:00 am to Swoopin
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This is a risky move for them (I hope). Hopefully google fiber tears these guys a new a-hole. But I'm less trusting of googles intentions by the day.
google wants to make money. it sees the ISPs as a potential way to stop them from making money.
I wouldn't trust any large company, but their business model is 100% pro consumer (at the moment).
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:07 am to Hawkeye95
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google wants to make money. it sees the ISPs as a potential way to stop them from making money.
I wouldn't trust any large company, but their business model is 100% pro consumer (at the moment).
Well, duh, the consumer IS their product.
So google gives you all kinds of free shite so they can sell "you"(their product) for a profit = GOOD.
ATT wants to give you some free shite(content) so they can sell phone service(their product) for a profit = BAD.
I truly have no idea how the left persons brain works.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:11 am to UF
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Last night AT&T
Shocker, the biggest shite heads in the cable/phone service are the ones to get it rolling.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:34 am to stlslick
I don't understand how anyone can look at a scheme to make the internet like cable television (being able to access only site within your plan) and say there's nothing wrong with it.
This site would never exist if the internet was the way the big ISPs want it to be.
To all the trump supporters out there, this style of internet basically gives ISPs total control of what content you see. How would you like it if HuffPo was the only non-alphabet new source you could access?
shite, people complain about the "liberal media" now. Just think what it will be like when there are literally no other voices because every ISP has blocked their content.
I'm all about free markets and government staying out as much as possible, but this would be such a cataclysmic blow to the exchange of ideas if we allow ISPs complete and total control of what people see on the internet. Which is exactly where they WANT to go on this.
As with many things in our changing society, and as evidenced in this thread, the vast majority of people will brush this off, say it's "not that bad" or "better than the alternative" and then in 10 or 15 years everyone will look around and wonder "How the frick did this happen?"
This site would never exist if the internet was the way the big ISPs want it to be.
To all the trump supporters out there, this style of internet basically gives ISPs total control of what content you see. How would you like it if HuffPo was the only non-alphabet new source you could access?
shite, people complain about the "liberal media" now. Just think what it will be like when there are literally no other voices because every ISP has blocked their content.
I'm all about free markets and government staying out as much as possible, but this would be such a cataclysmic blow to the exchange of ideas if we allow ISPs complete and total control of what people see on the internet. Which is exactly where they WANT to go on this.
As with many things in our changing society, and as evidenced in this thread, the vast majority of people will brush this off, say it's "not that bad" or "better than the alternative" and then in 10 or 15 years everyone will look around and wonder "How the frick did this happen?"
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:39 am to TJGator1215
Grow up.
AT&T bought a producer of content and a distributor of content. Happens all the time in business. Get over it.
AT&T bought a producer of content and a distributor of content. Happens all the time in business. Get over it.
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