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The Biggest Issues with the Mask “Mandate”
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:05 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:05 am
1)What is the goal we are trying to achieve by requiring folks to wear masks in many instances?
2)How will it be enforced?
3)Why is there not a similar mandate that all “high risk” folks limit their exposure level to the absolute minimum needed?
Thoughts on each...
1. The mandate has a very infinite feel to it bc there are no goals associated. The idea is to “slow the spread”. Slow the spread to what? If the severe cases associated with disease continue to trend downward, is that a metric to remove the mandate? Goal posts just keep moving so is it really that off based that people keep questioning the motives of all these precautions? Let’s also forget that community spread was not an issue AT ALL when we had widespread large gatherings of people in very close proximity for approximately 30 days but I digress.
2. This is huge IMO. I think govt could easily fine business bc there are permits involved for them but taking enforcement on the public seems far fetched w/o a legislative body actually passing a law. Seat belts were around for YEARS before there were laws requiring their use and the laws of physics clearly show the benefit w/o even reviewing the data (obviously the data backed up the physics). Mask data is anecdotal at best. The reason I even compare is that govt took years to require a proven safety measure which clearly provided a huge increase in survival of a car accident. The same govt decides to mandate a safety device (mask) in an extremely short time span with very limited data that it really helps all that much.
3. This is also huge. This mandate has been pumped up to protect the vulnerable. Well the vulnerable should NOT be out in public right now. If anything, the mandate should be if you have to converse with a vulnerable person then you need to wear a mask. Requiring the mandate for healthy public to wear a mask as per CDC guidance but not also mandating the vulnerable folks to self isolate is counterproductive. There are a ton of people out there that are saying they are high risk so wear it to protect me. Well fine but if you are out at a restaurant or at the movie theater and also high risk then you are the reckless one and not the healthy people around you.
2)How will it be enforced?
3)Why is there not a similar mandate that all “high risk” folks limit their exposure level to the absolute minimum needed?
Thoughts on each...
1. The mandate has a very infinite feel to it bc there are no goals associated. The idea is to “slow the spread”. Slow the spread to what? If the severe cases associated with disease continue to trend downward, is that a metric to remove the mandate? Goal posts just keep moving so is it really that off based that people keep questioning the motives of all these precautions? Let’s also forget that community spread was not an issue AT ALL when we had widespread large gatherings of people in very close proximity for approximately 30 days but I digress.
2. This is huge IMO. I think govt could easily fine business bc there are permits involved for them but taking enforcement on the public seems far fetched w/o a legislative body actually passing a law. Seat belts were around for YEARS before there were laws requiring their use and the laws of physics clearly show the benefit w/o even reviewing the data (obviously the data backed up the physics). Mask data is anecdotal at best. The reason I even compare is that govt took years to require a proven safety measure which clearly provided a huge increase in survival of a car accident. The same govt decides to mandate a safety device (mask) in an extremely short time span with very limited data that it really helps all that much.
3. This is also huge. This mandate has been pumped up to protect the vulnerable. Well the vulnerable should NOT be out in public right now. If anything, the mandate should be if you have to converse with a vulnerable person then you need to wear a mask. Requiring the mandate for healthy public to wear a mask as per CDC guidance but not also mandating the vulnerable folks to self isolate is counterproductive. There are a ton of people out there that are saying they are high risk so wear it to protect me. Well fine but if you are out at a restaurant or at the movie theater and also high risk then you are the reckless one and not the healthy people around you.
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:09 am to STEVED00
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:12 am to Hamma1122
Let it go
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:13 am to STEVED00
Historically white slave owners forced people of color to wear masks while they served them in the house, you don’t like it now that the tables are turned white boy? You haven’t shined enough shoes today
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:21 am to STEVED00
Unfortunately the conservatives have been tricked into thinking this is a liberties issue. Liberty issues to get worked up over involve property being confiscated or being locked up.
Conservatives ought to be championing low-cost measures such as mask wearing. The noncontributing zeros have no problem seeking expensive medical intervention on someone else’s dime. The damn nontransparent cost of a single day of hospitalization should be motivation for us all.
Conservatives ought to be championing low-cost measures such as mask wearing. The noncontributing zeros have no problem seeking expensive medical intervention on someone else’s dime. The damn nontransparent cost of a single day of hospitalization should be motivation for us all.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 7:22 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:29 am to STEVED00
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:30 am to STEVED00
quote:
The Biggest Issues with the Mask “Mandate”
For me the issue has nothing to do with freedom--that's a red herring.
I'm more troubled by the way this validates the Germophobic Worldview. Once this is all "over," seeing some people in masks & ubiquitous hand sanitizer will be part of the new normal.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:34 am to Koach K
quote:
Unfortunately the conservatives have been tricked into thinking this is a liberties issue.
The constantly changing rules,comments and declarations has shown that these mandates are not done for logical, science-based reasons.
So yes, it is a liberty issue.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:35 am to Bjorn Cyborg
No, we just need to flatten the curve and everything will go back to normal.
That's what the experts said after all.
That's what the experts said after all.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:36 am to Uptowner
quote:
seeing some people in masks & ubiquitous hand sanitizer will be part of the new normal.
And I will continue pointing and laughing at these people as they weaken their immune system.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:37 am to STEVED00
quote:
The Biggest Issues with the Mask “Mandate”
99% of the masks don’t do anything.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:39 am to MikeBRLA
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And I will continue pointing and laughing at these people as they weaken their immune system.
Me too, 100%.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:48 am to STEVED00
I posted this last week.
1) Why has "flatten the curve" been completely ignored?
2) If masks work, then why are we social distancing? If social distancing works, then why do we have to wear masks?
3) Fauci stated early on that masks didn't do anything. Then he stated later that he lied because they didn't want the public to buy up all the masks for the healthcare workers. Now he states masks does do something. So which Fauci are we to believe?
4) 3 gives way to point 1. We are no longer in danger of running out of supplies. Which means the curve has been flattened for a long time. So why are we still shutting down?
5) When does this end? Idiots are running around saying, "just wear the damn mask so we can open up". For how long? Am i supposed to accept that wearing the mask is what is needed for the rest of our lives?
6) When flu season starts, will the same maskers demand masks be worn at this time as well?
7) Why hasn't anyone apologized for being so catastrophically wrong during the entire COVID season?
8) For the maskers, what is your limit before you tell the "officials" NO?
9) The maskers crowd likes to claim, "the mask isn't for you. It doesn't protect you, it protects others". So stay with me, if a mask doesn't protect me, then how does it protect others? Let's remove the whole me and others part. The statement then is "the mask doesn't protect people, but it does protect people"... That's asinine. So i'm to wear a mask, that doesn't work, to protect people from a virus, that doesn't care about what cloth is on your face? And the argument, is that it's for the asymptomatic to not spread to others. But we also have no idea who is asymptomatic. So we are wearing a mask to protect ourselves from unknown people that might have a virus, and that mask doesn't prevent spread of China Flu at all... Why can't you just say, "wear a mask because some people are frightened of other people, and we don't understand anything about the virus. And since we don't understand it, then we need a symbol to remind us that the boogeyman is out there, and you never know when he'll strike."
10) For the newly mandated "wear masks wherever you go" orders. If you have to wear a mask now, because government mandates you. Then why didn't you have to wear one in the past? If this virus is so deadly, that a mask is required for every human being, then why wasn't it this deadly a week ago? Pretty damn irresponsible and reckless to have "officials and doctors" not mandate these masks from the beginning, and waiting 4 months before doing so...Or, could it be, that this is knee jerk reactions and the "officials and doctors" still don't know what the hell they are doing?
11) and the obvious...riots/protests/BLMrallies, how can a virus be so smart as to ignore riots/protests/BLMrallies, and only resurge when businesses are open again?
12) If masks work so well, then why aren't the areas requiring masks for penalty of fines/imprisonment, also enforcing via fines/imprisonment, the proper wearing/handling of a facemask? We are supposed to believe that these masks are the savior to the world, so much so that idiots are mandating people wear them or go to prison. Yet, they are not mandating people wear them properly. Why? How many stores have you walked into with people wearing masks sitting below their nose, or hanging off their ear? Even Latoya the Destroya was using her mask to wipe sweat off her face, and Broome's mask was below her nose when she was at Rouse's doing her "i'm just one of the people" propoganda pieces with WAFB.
1) Why has "flatten the curve" been completely ignored?
2) If masks work, then why are we social distancing? If social distancing works, then why do we have to wear masks?
3) Fauci stated early on that masks didn't do anything. Then he stated later that he lied because they didn't want the public to buy up all the masks for the healthcare workers. Now he states masks does do something. So which Fauci are we to believe?
4) 3 gives way to point 1. We are no longer in danger of running out of supplies. Which means the curve has been flattened for a long time. So why are we still shutting down?
5) When does this end? Idiots are running around saying, "just wear the damn mask so we can open up". For how long? Am i supposed to accept that wearing the mask is what is needed for the rest of our lives?
6) When flu season starts, will the same maskers demand masks be worn at this time as well?
7) Why hasn't anyone apologized for being so catastrophically wrong during the entire COVID season?
8) For the maskers, what is your limit before you tell the "officials" NO?
9) The maskers crowd likes to claim, "the mask isn't for you. It doesn't protect you, it protects others". So stay with me, if a mask doesn't protect me, then how does it protect others? Let's remove the whole me and others part. The statement then is "the mask doesn't protect people, but it does protect people"... That's asinine. So i'm to wear a mask, that doesn't work, to protect people from a virus, that doesn't care about what cloth is on your face? And the argument, is that it's for the asymptomatic to not spread to others. But we also have no idea who is asymptomatic. So we are wearing a mask to protect ourselves from unknown people that might have a virus, and that mask doesn't prevent spread of China Flu at all... Why can't you just say, "wear a mask because some people are frightened of other people, and we don't understand anything about the virus. And since we don't understand it, then we need a symbol to remind us that the boogeyman is out there, and you never know when he'll strike."
10) For the newly mandated "wear masks wherever you go" orders. If you have to wear a mask now, because government mandates you. Then why didn't you have to wear one in the past? If this virus is so deadly, that a mask is required for every human being, then why wasn't it this deadly a week ago? Pretty damn irresponsible and reckless to have "officials and doctors" not mandate these masks from the beginning, and waiting 4 months before doing so...Or, could it be, that this is knee jerk reactions and the "officials and doctors" still don't know what the hell they are doing?
11) and the obvious...riots/protests/BLMrallies, how can a virus be so smart as to ignore riots/protests/BLMrallies, and only resurge when businesses are open again?
12) If masks work so well, then why aren't the areas requiring masks for penalty of fines/imprisonment, also enforcing via fines/imprisonment, the proper wearing/handling of a facemask? We are supposed to believe that these masks are the savior to the world, so much so that idiots are mandating people wear them or go to prison. Yet, they are not mandating people wear them properly. Why? How many stores have you walked into with people wearing masks sitting below their nose, or hanging off their ear? Even Latoya the Destroya was using her mask to wipe sweat off her face, and Broome's mask was below her nose when she was at Rouse's doing her "i'm just one of the people" propoganda pieces with WAFB.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:20 am to BugAC
quote:
I posted this last week.
1) Why has "flatten the curve" been completely ignored?
2) If masks work, then why are we social distancing? If social distancing works, then why do we have to wear masks?
3) Fauci stated early on that masks didn't do anything. Then he stated later that he lied because they didn't want the public to buy up all the masks for the healthcare workers. Now he states masks does do something. So which Fauci are we to believe?
4) 3 gives way to point 1. We are no longer in danger of running out of supplies. Which means the curve has been flattened for a long time. So why are we still shutting down?
5) When does this end? Idiots are running around saying, "just wear the damn mask so we can open up". For how long? Am i supposed to accept that wearing the mask is what is needed for the rest of our lives?
6) When flu season starts, will the same maskers demand masks be worn at this time as well?
7) Why hasn't anyone apologized for being so catastrophically wrong during the entire COVID season?
8) For the maskers, what is your limit before you tell the "officials" NO?
9) The maskers crowd likes to claim, "the mask isn't for you. It doesn't protect you, it protects others". So stay with me, if a mask doesn't protect me, then how does it protect others? Let's remove the whole me and others part. The statement then is "the mask doesn't protect people, but it does protect people"... That's asinine. So i'm to wear a mask, that doesn't work, to protect people from a virus, that doesn't care about what cloth is on your face? And the argument, is that it's for the asymptomatic to not spread to others. But we also have no idea who is asymptomatic. So we are wearing a mask to protect ourselves from unknown people that might have a virus, and that mask doesn't prevent spread of China Flu at all... Why can't you just say, "wear a mask because some people are frightened of other people, and we don't understand anything about the virus. And since we don't understand it, then we need a symbol to remind us that the boogeyman is out there, and you never know when he'll strike."
10) For the newly mandated "wear masks wherever you go" orders. If you have to wear a mask now, because government mandates you. Then why didn't you have to wear one in the past? If this virus is so deadly, that a mask is required for every human being, then why wasn't it this deadly a week ago? Pretty damn irresponsible and reckless to have "officials and doctors" not mandate these masks from the beginning, and waiting 4 months before doing so...Or, could it be, that this is knee jerk reactions and the "officials and doctors" still don't know what the hell they are doing?
11) and the obvious...riots/protests/BLMrallies, how can a virus be so smart as to ignore riots/protests/BLMrallies, and only resurge when businesses are open again?
12) If masks work so well, then why aren't the areas requiring masks for penalty of fines/imprisonment, also enforcing via fines/imprisonment, the proper wearing/handling of a facemask? We are supposed to believe that these masks are the savior to the world, so much so that idiots are mandating people wear them or go to prison. Yet, they are not mandating people wear them properly. Why? How many stores have you walked into with people wearing masks sitting below their nose, or hanging off their ear? Even Latoya the Destroya was using her mask to wipe sweat off her face, and Broome's mask was below her nose when she was at Rouse's doing her "i'm just one of the people" propoganda pieces with WAFB.
Thank you!!!! Sometimes I wonder if I put too much effort into my post, but you sir.... have saved my day!
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:27 am to STEVED00
quote:
1)What is the goal we are trying to achieve by requiring folks to wear masks in many instances?
Glad I was able to glean that you're a moron right off the bat. Saved me from reading any further into your cyberskyscream.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:29 am to BugAC
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I posted this last week.
Dozens of times, no less. And here you go, posting it again.
Nobody is reading or responding to that dumb shite this time, either.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:29 am to STEVED00
I wear a mask but damn, it’s the only time I ever have to cough
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:29 am to Jester
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Glad I was able to glean that you're a moron right off the bat. Saved me from reading any further into your cyberskyscream.
It’s true. These trumper white supremacists don’t realize that we are literally saving they lives by forcing them to wear masks. People of color have been wearing masks for a long time, especially at places like banks and convenience stores
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