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re: The Alabama NAACP has released their list of demands for police reform in the state
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 am to KingofthePoint
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 am to KingofthePoint
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Absolutely not
Actually they should, so these democrat cities can see its black people shooting them and black people that are leading their police departments.
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 am to LegendInMyMind
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
Just come right out and say "we really don't care what happens if you guys kill a white guy, but if you kill a black guy ITS ON"
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 am to LegendInMyMind
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement
See. People don't really want equality.
Why does a minority victim get an enhanced investigation? Guess their lives matter more.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 am to LegendInMyMind
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
every shooting
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3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
nope
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“Shoot to Injure”
does this exist?
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1. Create a Citizens Review Board, Police Trial Board, or Accountability Review Board for the public to have permanent presence/seats and have subpoena power.
2. Release all body camera, citizens, and business camera footage; and 911 call audio to public.
ok
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-To remove corrupt officers
-To de-escalate conflict of excessive force situations
-To provide medical attention for shot or injured suspects
-To test officers in shooting for alcohol and chemical substance
seems reasonable
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6. Increase the use of special prosecutors when potential hate crimes are present.
by any race
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7. Implement implicit bias training for interacting with persons of color to include racial sensitivity, diversity training, and de-escalation strategies.
8.Enhance the collection of data on fatalities involving police officers.
9.Discourage so called “citizen’s arrest” or escalating or confronting acts within the community.
10.Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
ok
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 am to LegendInMyMind
Shouldn’t cave to the demands of anyone using violence as leverage. This is downright wrong.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:12 am to LegendInMyMind
frick me. They’ll never be satisfied
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:13 am to Joshjrn
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Well, you didn’t negotiate with them before, either.
Except they have negotiated before and continue to involve them, and this list, purposefully or not, implies that most of this stuff is groundbreaking and is not already being done.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:13 am to LegendInMyMind
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10.Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
The NAACP promotes good citizenship? Aren't these the same tards who are defending the looters and rioters?
They wouldn't know a good citizen from Jeffrey Dahmer.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:14 am to LegendInMyMind
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
wanting preferential treatment for minorities...sounds racist
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:16 am to LegendInMyMind
Just one thing that the NAACP needs to do to make this negotiation work....
Make sure no person of color ever commits another crime, then that’s a deal.
Don’t do criminal stuff, won’t get criminal repercussions.
Believe me, cops are not just arresting black citizens that are abiding by the law and being an appreciative American person.
Make sure no person of color ever commits another crime, then that’s a deal.
Don’t do criminal stuff, won’t get criminal repercussions.
Believe me, cops are not just arresting black citizens that are abiding by the law and being an appreciative American person.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:19 am to Clyde
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Does this include minorities shot by minority officers?
Why wouldn't it? I haven't seen anyone deny that black officers are capable of police brutality too.
I think most of these are pretty reasonable. I would prefer the language say that all police shootings get a heightened investigation, and I think that names should only be released if the officers are reprimanded or charged. If it is found to be a justified shooting then names don't need to be released.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 11:23 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:19 am to LegendInMyMind
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2. Release all body camera, citizens, and business camera footage; and 911 call audio to public.
I agree, but this will not have the intended outcome they want
People see and hear what the police deal with on a day to day basis, sympathy will change with a quickness.
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3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
Absolutely not and even suggesting it is absurd.
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-To clarify the “Shoot to Kill” or “Shoot to Injure” decisions
Already done. There are no shoot to injure decisions.
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-To test officers in shooting for alcohol and chemical substance
Isn't this already done?
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7. Implement implicit bias training for interacting with persons of color to include racial sensitivity, diversity training, and de-escalation strategies.
This is a farce.
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
frick off
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6. Increase the use of special prosecutors when potential hate crimes are present.
frick off
The rest I generally don't have an issue with. The last one is 100% on the NAACP. I've never known a police agency that doesn't want to help work with the community to promote safety.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:19 am to LegendInMyMind
1-4 seem ok, 5 -7 retarded, 8 is great and already done, 9 is whatever and 10 is not bad.
So 3 really stupid demands out of 10
So 3 really stupid demands out of 10
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:20 am to LegendInMyMind
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9.Discourage so called “citizen’s arrest” or escalating or confronting acts within the community.
I'm surprised no one has commented on this one.
I live in a rural part of the county. Police response time can be as much as 30-45 minutes at times. Being that a majority of "citizen's arrest" type events "in the community" are on private property, in homes, etc, I don't think discouraging me from "confronting acts" is a fair request.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:21 am to LegendInMyMind
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Create a Citizens Review Board, Police Trial Board, or Accountability Review Board for the public to have permanent presence/seats and have subpoena power.
Isn't this called a trial by a jury?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:22 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:Nope - the "public" doesn't want to know about all the shite that's going down on the streets.
2. Release all body camera, citizens, and business camera footage; and 911 call audio to public.
quote:frick NO!
3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
quote:Good Luck
4. Release and/or create Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)s:
-To clarify the “Shoot to Kill” or “Shoot to Injure” decisions
-To remove corrupt officers
-To test officers in shooting for alcohol and chemical substance
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10.Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:23 am to LegendInMyMind
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1. Create a Citizens Review Board, Police Trial Board, or Accountability Review Board for the public to have permanent presence/seats
Not bad....
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and have subpoena power.
Bad.
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2. Release all body camera, citizens, and business camera footage; and 911 call audio to public.
Good.
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3. Immediately release the names of all officers, supervisors involved in all shootings.
Bad. There have to be exceptions to this for it to work.
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4. Release and/or create Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)s:
-To de-escalate conflict. with person with weapon present and/or drawn
-To clarify the “Shoot to Kill” or “Shoot to Injure” decisions
-To remove corrupt officers
-To de-escalate conflict of excessive force situations
-To provide medical attention for shot or injured suspects
-To test officers in shooting for alcohol and chemical substance
Fine. Although most videos I've seen where a perp (or innocent citizen) gets shot, the cops almost immediately call for EMS.
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
Nope. That is a dangerously slippery slope right there. Just investigate all shootings similarly.
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6. Increase the use of special prosecutors when potential hate crimes are present.
7. Implement implicit bias training for interacting with persons of color to include racial sensitivity, diversity training, and de-escalation strategies.
Good.
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8.Enhance the collection of data on fatalities involving police officers.
Good, although they may not like the results and can't ignore the facts of that data.
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.Discourage so called “citizen’s arrest” or escalating or confronting acts within the community.
Too broad, or at least needs some exceptions. But not a bad base.
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10.Interact and team up with the NAACP and other organizations that promote public safety and good citizenship of the public
Good.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:27 am to LegendInMyMind
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5.Every minority shooting requires an elevated level of investigation within the city, county, state, national law enforcement.
Isn't that a double standard? Let's say two meth'ed up guys are being chased, one white, one African American. They eventually turn around and pull guns out and take aim at the police. Both are shot. Only the African American shooting is investigated at a higher level?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:28 am to LegendInMyMind
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1. Create a Citizens Review Board, Police Trial Board, or Accountability Review Board for the public to have permanent presence/seats and have subpoena power.
I wonder if the police unions would fight something like this?
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