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re: Texas may become first state to mandate Bible readings in public schools
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:42 am to beerJeep
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:42 am to beerJeep
"For your homework tonight, write "there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger" 10 times. We have an oral exam on Wednesday where you'll be expected to recite the shahada"
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:43 am to In The Know
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Why not? It’s an historical text.
Because then you will have the Muslims and all the others wanting to do the same and they would be able to do so under the same rights that allow them to do bible readings.
And religion is something that should be taught either at home or at a private school specific to whatever religion you want your kids to be raised as.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:43 am to Shexter
OP means the first state in 50 years, not the "first state". The Supreme Court ruled against compulsory religion in public schools in 1962 but some states obeyed more slowly than others.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:45 am to Shexter
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The list includes a variety of texts, ranging from Sophocles to Fred Rogers and culminating in hundreds of required texts from kindergarten to 12th grade.
If its an approach of learning language and how it has been used historically nothing wrong honestly. The curriculum should include other theological texts if it warrants appropriate discussion.
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Senate Bill 10, of Texas' most recent session, requires every public school classroom to display the Christian Ten Commandments. The bill was approved by Gov. Abbott in late June.
and this is where we cross into bullshite territory. Government teaching your kids what religion they should adopt.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 11:51 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:46 am to HouseMom
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Does morality exist in a vacuum? Does it exist in 2026 without the influence of religion?
Are you really arguing that morality is a construct of religion?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:47 am to Loup
It's amazing how many people don't or refuse to realize the slippery slope stupid shite like this creates
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:49 am to Pettifogger
Torah is part of the Christian bible.
Do we also read the Mormon bible? Is it not part of the founding of America? Joseph and his brides?
Jefferson read the Quran to learn about different religions. Why not include it?
Do we also read the Mormon bible? Is it not part of the founding of America? Joseph and his brides?
Jefferson read the Quran to learn about different religions. Why not include it?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:49 am to jnethe1
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This is pushing a religion.
Yes. The correct religion
To you......and for now....how will you feel when they start indoctrinating kids with "religious" beliefs you dont agree with.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:53 am to ATrillionaire
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Does morality exist in a vacuum? Does it exist in 2026 without the influence of religion?
Are you really arguing that morality is a construct of religion?
Dante addressed this 900 years ago with the first layer of hell. Somehow thought in America has regressed for the majority of people here that they cannot accept that people with different religious backgrounds can still be moral.
And I'm saying this as a practicing Catholic who's whole world view politically, practically, professionally, etc is premised from Matthew 7:12.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:54 am to Shexter
It will serve as a light to those kids whose parents are not doing their jobs in raising their kids with God's Word.
I see no downside.
I see no downside.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:57 am to lionward2014
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And I'm saying this as a practicing Catholic who's whole world view politically, practically, professionally, etc is premised from Matthew 7:12.
That brings up a good point: which Bible will these Texas children be reading from? Surely not the incorrect, incomplete Protestant Bible with books missing?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:59 am to ATrillionaire
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Are you really arguing that morality is a construct of religion?
You can't keep responding to me by just insulting what I'm saying. Plus, that's not what I said at all.
I said:
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How can you even discuss morality without at least acknowledging religion's place.
This was what you called dumb. HOW am I wrong? Use your words.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:00 pm to Shexter
Why not, it’s gone so far downhill might as well try something else.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:02 pm to In The Know
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Why not? It’s an historical text.
Sure. But how it's taught matters. If it's taught as a historical text and not indoctrination, then you're also teaching about other prominent religious texts.
If we're just mandating them to be read in an English class for shits and giggles, folks can do that at home, in church, or at Sunday School.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:03 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Why it's merely something incredibly niche.
How about some excerpts from the Book of Satan
While the Bible is the most important work in Western Civilization. That's the way most textural (non-religious) classes start their curriculum. And not knowing at least some of it's key highlights puts you behind the curve with most educated peoples. Me, I'd advise for some Koran verses as well.
But that framing the ten commandments thing contains a bit of a flaw.... as if you read closely it was originally written on both sides.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:04 pm to lionward2014
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Dante addressed this 900 years ago with the first layer of hell. Somehow thought in America has regressed for the majority of people here that they cannot accept that people with different religious backgrounds can still be moral.
Thank you. And since you mention it, this is one of the texts with a Biblical excerpt as a supplement.
The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
-- The Book of Job (Book of Job, Chapters 1-7, 11, 14, 19, 28, 38-
42) Hebrew Bible / Old Testament (trans. NIRV)
-- I’ve Been to the Mountaintop by Martin Luther King, Jr.
--The Middle Ages: A Very Short Introduction by Miri Rubin (Chapter 1 “The
'Middle' Ages?,” Chapter 2 “People and Their Lifestyles,” Chapter 3
“The Big Idea: Christian Salvation,” and Chapter 4 “Kingship,
Lordship, and Government”)
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:07 pm to McMahonnequin
If this is a slippery slope, it’s a one-way slide and it hasn’t been towards traditional values in any of our lifetimes.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:14 pm to HouseMom
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Thank you. And since you mention it, this is one of the texts with a Biblical excerpt as a supplement.
I was agreeing with the person critiquing your arguments, not with you. Dante asserts the virtuousness of pagan philosophers, although condemning them to hell still as they had not accepted Jesus as their savior. Even 900 years ago there was recognition of morals not rooted in religion, but somehow these days that supposedly isn't possible.
If your argument is that other texts reference the Bible so naturally discussion of it will come up in school, then we are on the same side that that is fine as it is crucial to understanding the text being studied. That is not the issue here though.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:24 pm to John Casey
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doubt any of the far left leaning teachers or far right leaning teachers would be capable of teaching the Bible readings from a neutral perspective.
They wouldn’t have to teach the religious doctrines. Just treat it as what it is in terms of literature: the single most important book in Western Civilization. The Bible should be taught along with classics from Greece and Rome, and important works from the Enlightenment. Doesn't matter that all these works are often in opposition to each other. They all still make up the roots of our civilization . Dealing with opposing ideas is something everyone has to learn to do.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:26 pm to Shexter
If you are a believer, this is great.
If you are not a believer or believe something different, this is not great.
Wish government would stay out of minds, bodies and spirits. Thats what I believe.
If you are not a believer or believe something different, this is not great.
Wish government would stay out of minds, bodies and spirits. Thats what I believe.
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