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re: Texas is all fun and freedom until the tax bill comes

Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
12925 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:22 pm to
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Again.... you're just renting it from the govt. Buy a nice house and you'll have to keep working just to keep up with the property taxes if you're 'lucky' enough to live in an area that grows.

My cousin (a professional engineer) lives in Illinois and tells me the same thing: "my house is paid for, but I have to pay over $13k per year to rent it from the government."
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
831 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:40 pm to
It becomes really apparent once you aren't paying monthly payments on you house and you have to pay your insurance and taxes separately. The problem is that most people will never own their home outright and so are always rolling the insurance and property taxes into their payments.

Once you start writing those checks every year, then it really comes to roost. You don't own anything. The govt just lets you take possession while you pay them for the right of that possession.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35559 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

It becomes really apparent once you aren't paying monthly payments on you house and you have to pay your insurance and taxes separately. The problem is that most people will never own their home outright and so are always rolling the insurance and property taxes into their payments.

Once you start writing those checks every year, then it really comes to roost. You don't own anything. The govt just lets you take possession while you pay them for the right of that possession.


Paying taxes directly to my county/parish/local school district etc etc is 1000000000x more preferable than paying income and sales tax to Baton Rouge or D.C.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5382 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:57 pm to
Mine was $8200 in Grapevine, TX. My wife's best friend's property tax is $38,000 in Frisco, TX. We live in West Hattiesburg, MS now and my bill is $2300 however my state income tax is around $10k.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23923 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:00 pm to
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You don't own land. You just rent it from the govt. Property tax is the worst kind of tax there is. No matter if you earn or spend... you still have to pay out the arse. Hit a bad time and you're stuff gets sold on the courthouse steps. Again.... you're just renting it from the govt. Buy a nice house and you'll have to keep working just to keep up with the property taxes if you're 'lucky' enough to live in an area that grows.


and you can do that in the largest conservative county in the western hemisphere, or somewhere else.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5707 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:01 am to
Higher Property taxes go towards local improvement districts and school districts

Higher Property taxes make more sense than state income tax to Texans
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5803 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:35 am to
quote:

Lots of people don’t like living next to Walmart in an exurb and 2 hours from anything entertaining.



That sounds like Heaven to me.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6547 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:41 am to
People that escrow in Texas are a huge part of the problem with continually approving taxes. What they do on election day in November happens about two weeks before at least Fort Bend County sends out their appraisals of your property. Coincidence? Doubt it.

The glorious intelligence of these people wake up Dec 1 and say, "see, our mortgage payment didn't change," but then don't associate it with their bank adjusting escrow in Q1, or even worse, asking you for a $5k check two weeks before Christmas.

It is fairly easy to move somewhere in Houston, for instance, if you're not worried about schools, to where your property tax burden is 2% or lower on luxury homes (I picked Bunker Hill for the example, which is generally 1.5mil and up), and it can go even lower if you live outside the metro area. But, you have choices, which you don't get with state income taxes.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15237 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:00 am to
My property taxes are 1000 bucks a month. I am old enough to have had my taxes locked in. My home value appraisal has nearly doubled (waterfront). I'd be pitching a fit if I wasn't locked in. It's essentially one of those cases where rising property value can raise taxes to an intolerable level. I feel sorry for my younger neighbors.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:41 am to
quote:

Dallas county went 65/45 for Biden while the rest of the state went 52/46 for Trump.

I wonder if that has something to do with it


That totals 110

Election really was fricked.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7042 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 3:07 am to
Oklahoma says: "Due to inflation my sales tax and property taxes expendatures both went up."
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 3:08 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15613 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 3:08 am to
GL to all the TX people who likes to gloat about the value of their house went up huge.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4954 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 4:21 am to
Trade off to everything I guess... higher property taxes but no state income tax, great public schools in many areas so no need for private tuition, likely higher pay, with well run state/economy and lower insurance.
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
3748 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:35 am to
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Looking at one tax rate in a vacuum is dumb. Look at overall tax burden.


”Most people use statistics like a drunk man uses a lamppost; more for support than illumination”
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5571 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:37 am to
Should we speak of the roads, health care, and education that tax money provides?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71434 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:49 am to
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California's overall property taxes are below the national average. The average effective property tax rate in California is 0.71%, compared to the national rate, which sits at 0.99%.


They passed an initiative in the 1970s to limit property taxes.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46495 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:50 am to
The OP pre invasion would post pro Russian threads fwiw
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66395 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:54 am to
freedom aint free
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:58 am to
The great hordes of people moving here do not seem to be turning around and going back when they discover their tax bills.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17767 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:59 am to
Tennessee is laughing at Texas & they have public land to hunt & pro sports & water & not much wind energy to depend on Texas is so over rated
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