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re: Texas Doctor prescribing inhaled budesonide says it’s the Covid silver bullet
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:29 pm to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:29 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Yes, but it’s not going to really line people’s pockets the likes of which a vaccine and other treatments we are doing are going to.
We have no idea the costs of treatment or vaccines.
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:32 pm to UltimaParadox
This board now uses just as much emotional reasoning as leftist Reddit communities.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:37 pm to Mike da Tigah
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The guy is simply saying what he has seen, treated, and witnessed. It is worth the effort to check out, and if it can keep mild cases out of the hopital, it is a positive.
That’s my sentiments as well. What can it hurt?
Agreed. It should be looked at. Laugh if you will, but over the history of this country innovations have often come out of nowhere like this. I sure as hell don't want to place all my chips with the government "experts."
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:47 pm to Mike da Tigah
Why should we listen to some drunk Texan doc? Maybe he meant "Coors Silver Bullet" and it got auto corrected to "COVID silver bullet"?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:47 pm to Mike da Tigah
Is that Boobie Miles doctor?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:48 pm to SloaneRanger
He had a video on you tube a few weeks ago. The thing is he's treating people at first sign of sickness. The hospitals are sending people home to ride it out unit they need a vent.. glad my wife is a nurse and we are stocked up on everything he's been using to treat people..
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:05 pm to Mike da Tigah
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“Early treatment is better with this disease,” he said. “And I’m having a 100% survival rate. I don’t even know how many I’ve treated...dozens. I have 14 that I’m treating right now.”
I had COPD'ers on triple therapy (LAMA/LABA/ICS) still do poorly in march-april. We've put 'healthy' people during that time on inhalers too, still didn't do much.
Yeah, nah dog. Sorry, not claiming its the cure
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:09 pm to htran90
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I had COPD'ers on triple therapy (LAMA/LABA/ICS) still do poorly in march-april. We've put 'healthy' people during that time on inhalers too, still didn't do much.
Yeah, nah dog. Sorry, not claiming its the cure
To be fair, you're just another random doctor claiming stuff like this random doctor.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:10 pm to ashy larry
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The fatality rate isn’t high enough to claim success by treating ‘dozens’. He’s treating people at clinics. How many people show up to these clinics that would end up in the icu? He could be treating a bunch of 20 year old for all we know
This is the problem with all the research.
When such a high percentage of people who do get pretty sick still eventually fight this off to stay out of ICU with Tylenol, it means a huge margin of error if you've successfully treated people before they are in danger of going to intensive care.
It's a perfect scenario to have a lot of success stories because you're 100 person test group just had a higher percentage of patients who would have fought it off with Tylenol.
For that reason, it's better to be skeptical if there are also reasonable studies that did not have success since a very likely reason is that these negative results show the percentages evening out.
Treatments that can show a huge difference in patients that are already --or will soon be --in need of ICU/vents would seem a bit easier to get a clearer idea more quickly.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:11 pm to Mike da Tigah
So he has found a cure for a disease that has a 99>5 % survival rate.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:15 pm to Mike da Tigah
How many patients did he enroll in double blind, controlled study.?
Anecdotal bullshite.
Who was the pretentious, dumbass physician who appeared on Fox in April claiming to have found the silver bullet for COVID?
Anecdotal bullshite.
Who was the pretentious, dumbass physician who appeared on Fox in April claiming to have found the silver bullet for COVID?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:25 pm to wm72
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When such a high percentage of people who do get pretty sick still eventually fight this off to stay out of ICU with Tylenol, it means a huge margin of error if you've successfully treated people before they are in danger of going to intensive care.
Yeah. Nearly 100% of the people I have given no medicine to have had mild illness and improved in a week or so. The risk of confirmation bias by prescribing therapy to a low-risk group is sky high.
And there's not enough standardization in healthcare right now for the right kind of identification of those who have been observed to be high risk (the obese, the uncontrolled diabetics, the hypertensives, and even to an extent black people) to be followed early in their courses to see what measures will/won't be effective.
For those in medicine, it's almost a trip back to the Cowboy days. Most just do what they think is right. When they do it enough and feel they've found something useful, they pipe up during lounge talk or at call group meetings, etc. The basis behind it could be way off. Next month, their idea may carry weight. It may be refuted.
We live in interesting times.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:25 pm to GATORGAR247
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The hospitals are sending people home to ride it out unit they need a vent..
Most facilities have been using a vent as the last-ditch effort for months. BiPAP and Vapotherm is the preferred treatment until a vent is absolutely necessary.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:33 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The guy is simply saying what he has seen, treated, and witnessed.
This is the thread title...
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Texas Doctor prescribing inhaled budesonide says it’s the Covid silver bullet
I’m not saying it can’t be a positive. It certainly can be. But calling it the silver bullet is like claiming a Super Bowl title after the preseason game.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:39 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:Not exactly a ringing endorsement there, doc.
I don’t even know how many I’ve treated...dozens.
If you're going to do an interview about this, the # of people you'v successfully treating would seem like a rather important thing for you to find out.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:39 pm to Mike da Tigah
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“And I’m having a 100% survival rate. I don’t even know how many I’ve treated...dozens.
So like .1% better than most other doctors?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:46 pm to wm72
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intensive care.
*intents and care
Geez, you people spew informed opinions like you are authorities on matters, and you can’t even speak English.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:47 pm to High C
It's "In tents of care" dummy.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:48 pm to Mike da Tigah
Why is it only on youtube if this man has found a legitimate treatment? The whole world is looking for answers and this guy can't get an interview anywhere but youtube? I don't get it.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:56 pm to Mike da Tigah
Well hopefully this works and isn’t just one guy with a some flukes or a total looney. Would be good to have a real treatment for this
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