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re: Tennessee and Georgia announce reopening to begin next week (Georgia this Friday)
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:05 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:05 pm to Pettifogger
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I question whether there is anything to be gained
Are you serious? Tell that to the people can open back up and employ those out of work.
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
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The virus will be no more or less of a threat in a few more weeks.
I just doubt this is true.
A virus with significantly decreased spread makes the job of those in public health considerably easier and makes the ideal scenario - tracking and isolating clusters - a reality.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:05 pm to NIH
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Not to mention the business loans just dried up and we’re getting further removed from the stimulus checks.
How far do people really think $1,200 is going to go anyway? It sure as hell isn't going to cover the month of May for just about anybody.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:06 pm to arkyhawk
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I’m not against starting to open *some* things up, but this isn’t a great argument for it IMO.
Opening back up too early and starting a 2nd wave that kills more people and puts us back into a longer quarantine will be a lot more depressing for most than waiting a few more weeks to be sure.
He is talking about economic depression, Karen.
The shite that everyone believed wouldn’t be coming or we would somehow magically avoid when all the jobs just reappear and businesses didn’t close permanently.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:07 pm to dawgfan24348
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The point is to make sure we don't overrun the hospitals. Right now we're doing a good job at it, this just seems really premature.
bullshite in, bullshite out.
Hospitals have the opposite problem right now and are furloughing and laying off employees.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:08 pm to GentleJackJones
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ennessee's slated reopening doesn't include Nashville, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Memphis, Jackson, or Kingsport.
Which is odd that they left out Sumner, Rutherford, and Williamson counties, all of which have had higher numbers than Hamilton, Knox, Madison counties plus Tri-Cities.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:08 pm to RollTide1987
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Bring this charade to an end and let's fight this thing like Sweden
America imitating anything that Sweden does pretty much is foolishness. The two countries could not be any different culturally or behaviorally
That’s why the economics of Sweden cannot be applied here, nor this. The second America opens up again we’re going to have about 24 hours before people forget the whole damn thing and start crawling all over each other with zero respect for a contagious virus. It’s either on or off here. We cannot moderate our own behavior.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:08 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:Right now, what you think is a good thing is destroying community hospitals and will have a heavy impact on many communities.
The point is to make sure we don't overrun the hospitals. Right now we're doing a good job at it, this just seems really premature.
Can’t see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:09 pm to Pettifogger
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A virus with significantly decreased spread makes the job of those in public health considerably easier and makes the ideal scenario - tracking and isolating clusters - a reality.
We have had about 6 weeks to prepare to track and isolate clusters with basically no indication that we have anything close to the infrastructure necessary to pull that off.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:09 pm to NIH
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Are you serious? Tell that to the people can open back up and employ those out of work.
How much money is going to be made at the barber shop next week?
How many people are going to go back to meaningful work with the protocols in place and almost no customers at the nail salon?
If anyone is moral preening about this, it's the folks claiming that opening 7 days ahead of projections, with very little business with ridiculous distancing and sanitation requirements is some life or death liberty struggle.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:10 pm to Pettifogger
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How much money is going to be made at the barber shop next week?
More than zero
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:12 pm to NIH
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we’re getting further removed from the stimulus checks.
seems likely that there will be one more check issued
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:13 pm to dawgfan24348
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The point is to make sure we don't overrun the hospitals. Right now we're doing a good job at it, this just seems really premature.
For Christ sakes lady....
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:14 pm to Pettifogger
quote:More than if they remained close.
How much money is going to be made at the barber shop next week?
quote:No clue.
How many people are going to go back to meaningful work with the protocols in place and almost no customers at the nail salon?
How many additional millions will we add to UE next week?
quote:Anything is better than zero or, hell, negative.
If anyone is moral preening about this, it's the folks claiming that opening 7 days ahead of projections, with very little business with ridiculous distancing and sanitation requirements is some life or death liberty struggle.
This isn’t a liberty struggle at this point.
It is a maintaining of economic viability.
If we go up in UE at the same rate next week as we have been, which will be lucky considering the oil collapse, we will have met the percentage that was reached over 10 months of the Great Depression.
We are at 18% over a matter of weeks.
This situation is far more dire than the virus and it compounds weekly.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:14 pm to Crowknowsbest
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More than zero
Probably nothing close to what is needed to pay salaries or the lease or buy supplies or whatever. These businesses are fricked, and racing to reopen in a state that hasn't done all that well with the virus seems questionable if this isn't going to do much to help businesses recover.
I'm asking the question of whether that negligible/modest/meaningful (I don't know the answer) revenue is going to make any difference and whether there are going to be more virus losses than economic gains.
The counterpoint for people on your side of this, I'd think, is "well if business is going to suck so much then there probably won't be much transmission going on."
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:15 pm to dawgfan24348
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Nobody wants it to go on forever stop making up narratives
Stop lying. If it hurts Trump's chances in November, yes they do.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:17 pm to cardswinagain
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Stop lying. If it hurts Trump's chances in November, yes they do.
Yeah, but like 5% of this board fall into that category.
Most people who argue in favor of the shutdowns/cautious approaches on this site are probably Trump supporters of varying degrees.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:18 pm to Crowknowsbest
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it's a cost/benefit analysis. People are going to get sick and die and that's unfortunate. There is going to be a second spike. If we have done a good job reinforcing our hospital infrastructure this last month and a half, we should be able to withstand the second spike. Either way, building up herd immunity is going to be the optimal path forward.
We've got a long and painful road ahead of us, and every week we wait, it just gets longer and more painful
Good post. There is no point to further kicking the can on this issue. We can't kick it far enough to not have the eventual issue of needing to face the danger and pain that's inevitable until there is a vaccine.
Sweden has endured pain but it is going to emerge in the best shape. It had the wisdom to take the long term view.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:18 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Which is odd that they left out Sumner, Rutherford, and Williamson counties, all of which have had higher numbers than Hamilton, Knox, Madison counties plus Tri-Cities.
Especially since Franklin, Murfreesboro, and Clarksville are larger than Jackson and Johnson City.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:20 pm to dawgfan24348
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Nobody wants it to go on forever stop making up narratives
If hospitals aren't overwhelmed,
And yet you still wanna stay on lockdown,
Then what is your criteria for re-opening?
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