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re: Tennessee and Georgia announce reopening to begin next week (Georgia this Friday)

Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:53 pm to
Which means it's time to ease up. What is it with every liberal wanting this to go on forever?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:54 pm to
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Well yeah because of the shutdown


Even with the shutdown they expected to be overwhelmed. It hasn't played out that way.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:55 pm to
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What is it with every liberal wanting this to go on forever?

Nobody wants it to go on forever stop making up narratives
Posted by GentleJackJones
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:55 pm to
Tennessee's slated reopening doesn't include Nashville, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Memphis, Jackson, or Kingsport.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:55 pm to
Seems to me this relies on a lot of people voluntarily opting to continue living life for the next month or more the same way they have been for the last 5 weeks.

Which I'm in favor of, but I'm not sure it'll actually happen.

I'm not for indefinite closure, but I do question the wisdom of reopening as soon as signs point to leveling, as opposed to 10-14 days into that.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:56 pm to
They want the government to take care of them. They want to give government more power and they want to live life as victims in constant fear.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:57 pm to
The guidelines Trump rolled out were actually pretty solid. This just seems like jumping the gun.
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:57 pm to
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The coming depression will be bending over a lot more people than this virus


I’m not against starting to open *some* things up, but this isn’t a great argument for it IMO.

Opening back up too early and starting a 2nd wave that kills more people and puts us back into a longer quarantine will be a lot more depressing for most than waiting a few more weeks to be sure.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:57 pm to
Pretty much everyone pearl clutching on this site is coincidentally an open Bernie or Hillary supporter.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Be sure


People are going to die.

That’s a sure thing. We can’t hide from the virus.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:58 pm to
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I'm not for indefinite closure, but I do question the wisdom of reopening as soon as signs point to leveling, as opposed to 10-14 days into that.

We're losing 5M+ jobs per week. Every week, the scale of economic disaster we have to deal with intensifies.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:00 pm to
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Nobody wants it to go on forever stop making up narratives


So how much longer is not "reallypremature" to you?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:00 pm to
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Opening back up too early and starting a 2nd wave that kills more people and puts us back into a longer quarantine will be a lot more depressing for most than waiting a few more weeks to be sure.


The virus will be no more or less of a threat in a few more weeks.

Flattening the curve was the plan. This plan does not lead to eradicating the curve anytime in the near future.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:00 pm to
Not to mention the business loans just dried up and we’re getting further removed from the stimulus checks.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:01 pm to
I said the guidelines Trump rolled out were what we should use.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Opening back up too early and starting a 2nd wave that kills more people and puts us back into a longer quarantine


Yeah...that's not happening. Americans won't be tricked into their homes a second time. At least not nearly as many as the first time.

Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:02 pm to
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We're losing 5M+ jobs per week. Every week, the scale of economic disaster we have to deal with intensifies.



it's pretty much just this simple

it's a cost/benefit analysis. People are going to get sick and die and that's unfortunate. There is going to be a second spike. If we have done a good job reinforcing our hospital infrastructure this last month and a half, we should be able to withstand the second spike. Either way, building up herd immunity is going to be the optimal path forward.

We've got a long and painful road ahead of us, and every week we wait, it just gets longer and more painful
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:03 pm to
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The guidelines Trump rolled out were actually pretty solid. This just seems like jumping the gun.



I think people who dig into what Kemp is saying will come away feeling better, the precautions taken in reopening are significant and it's not just a free for all.

Of course, the question is whether those restrictions will be followed and citizens will respond as they should, and that's where the potential for this to break down starts.

Moreover, it's questionable whether there is going to be a meaningful economic gain by very structured reopening now vs. another couple weeks of closure. I think this type of very gradual reopening is the way to go (I don't expect to hear about a bunch of people flocking to the movies next week), but again, I question whether there is anything really gained by this.

I think GA is ok, not great not terrible (outside of Albany), but that begs the question of whether we should be at the front of the line for these moves.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:04 pm to
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The point is to make sure we don't overrun the hospitals. Right now we're doing a good job at it, this just seems really premature.

Then keep your stupid arse at home, problem solved
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
27002 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:05 pm to
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it's a cost/benefit analysis. People are going to get sick and die and that's unfortunate. There is going to be a second spike. If we have done a good job reinforcing our hospital infrastructure this last month and a half, we should be able to withstand the second spike. Either way, building up herd immunity is going to be the optimal path forward.

We've got a long and painful road ahead of us, and every week we wait, it just gets longer and more painful


Good post. There is no point to further kicking the can on this issue. We can't kick it far enough to not have the eventual issue of needing to face the danger and pain that's inevitable until there is a vaccine.
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