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Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:19 am to OweO
Unless the cop gave him an order to continue typing on his phone he did not comply.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:22 am to OweO
Yikes...so much to unpack here.
Classic example of everyone being an idiot, but in the end, I can't say I blame the cop.
From what I can piece together from reading the story and watching the video, it sounds like the kid basically did everything he could to draw suspicion.
He's dressed in all black for starters, but whatever, that's not a crime; he can wear whatever he wants.
But if your girlfriend is inviting you over and you have reason to believe the cops are tailing you, why the frick are you going around to the back of the house? Knock on the front door like a normal person for goodness sake.
The trooper stated in his report that the kid "ducked into thick bushes" when he saw him. And if you watch the video, you can see why the trooper would've thought that...the pathway to the backyard is lined with thick shrubbery.
I would've been highly suspicious too if I were that cop.
Classic example of everyone being an idiot, but in the end, I can't say I blame the cop.
From what I can piece together from reading the story and watching the video, it sounds like the kid basically did everything he could to draw suspicion.
He's dressed in all black for starters, but whatever, that's not a crime; he can wear whatever he wants.
But if your girlfriend is inviting you over and you have reason to believe the cops are tailing you, why the frick are you going around to the back of the house? Knock on the front door like a normal person for goodness sake.
The trooper stated in his report that the kid "ducked into thick bushes" when he saw him. And if you watch the video, you can see why the trooper would've thought that...the pathway to the backyard is lined with thick shrubbery.
I would've been highly suspicious too if I were that cop.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:24 am to tiggerthetooth
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He was entering a home from the backyard and refused to cooperate with an officer.
Sure he may have had no ill intent, but just because he knows that doesn't mean the officer does, he just sees some kid dressed in all black entering a home from the backdoor. Very strange behavior.
He was no threat to anyone and made no threatening gestures. Nor was he "entering" the home. The cop could have stood there and continued to point a taser at a practically motionless teen who almost certainly had told him his girlfriend was coming to let him in.
If he'd rounded the corner and tased him, ok, maybe. But standing there with no action on either of their part and just tasing him because he wouldn't let you cuff him, when the teen was idle - is stupid.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:25 am to OweO
“ the mother said he should have listened,but....”. Quote from news report.
He should have listened instead of ignoreingbthe cop and going with the “I dindu nuffin”.
He should have listened instead of ignoreingbthe cop and going with the “I dindu nuffin”.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:25 am to AllDayEveryDay
quote:What was this guy getting arrested for?
It's also the police officers right to arrest your arse by whatever method he deems necessary.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:25 am to OweO
"frick You"
Bold move man, bold move.
Yall really need to turn the sound on the video.
Bold move man, bold move.
Yall really need to turn the sound on the video.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:26 am to Pettifogger
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But standing there with no action on either of their part and just tasing him because he wouldn't let you cuff him, when the teen was idle - is stupid.
It is cool if people just refuse to comply as long as they are not acting aggressive? So as long as I don't appear threatening I can ignore anything cops say to me?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:27 am to OweO
So, he sees a cop and then runs to the back of the house. He gets on his phone and is texting someone. The cop has no idea what he's doing in someone's back yard, who he's texting, is there any of his friends around, and he refuses to comply with a lawful order given by the cop.
The scumbag mom is simply looking for her own payday. How about telling your scumbag kid to not act suspiciously around cops, do not run into the backyard of a home while you know a cop is looking at your OBVIOUSLY SUSPICIOUS behavior (who goes into someone's backyard to enter their house -- or even their own), and then completely disregarded the cop's REASONABLE demands while continuing to text on his phone. Could he have been alerting his friends to come and "help" him get away from this cop? The cop had no idea and acted MORE THAN APPROPRIATELY.
ETA: These were my exact thoughts and exactly what I would have posted if the kid was white. In fact, looking at the video, I thought that the kid was white. He looked white and his girlfriend looked white. His name is "Jack Rodeman" and not some black-sounding name. It wasn't until the very end when they showed a picture of him and his mom that I realized that he was mixed.
The scumbag mom is simply looking for her own payday. How about telling your scumbag kid to not act suspiciously around cops, do not run into the backyard of a home while you know a cop is looking at your OBVIOUSLY SUSPICIOUS behavior (who goes into someone's backyard to enter their house -- or even their own), and then completely disregarded the cop's REASONABLE demands while continuing to text on his phone. Could he have been alerting his friends to come and "help" him get away from this cop? The cop had no idea and acted MORE THAN APPROPRIATELY.
ETA: These were my exact thoughts and exactly what I would have posted if the kid was white. In fact, looking at the video, I thought that the kid was white. He looked white and his girlfriend looked white. His name is "Jack Rodeman" and not some black-sounding name. It wasn't until the very end when they showed a picture of him and his mom that I realized that he was mixed.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:27 am to USMEagles
It’d be hilarious and depressing to know how many bootlickers have a Gadsden sticker right next to their blue lives matter sticker
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:29 am to chryso
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It is cool if people just refuse to comply as long as they are not acting aggressive? So as long as I don't appear threatening I can ignore anything cops say to me?
I don't advocate for ignoring the cops
I also don't advocate for dropping harmless teens presenting no threat onto pavement with a taser when the situation was under control and you could have waited 3 minutes to see if the girlfriend showed up as the kid claimed.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:30 am to Kentucker
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It’s against the law not to comply with a police officer’s instructions.
I believe there is a requirement of them being legally legal instructions
not arguing these weren't, but there's definitely a line.Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:30 am to OweO
Everyone knows you can’t text and drive.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:31 am to Pettifogger
quote:
you could have waited 3 minutes to see if the girlfriend showed up as the kid claimed.
Or his accomplices show up to shoot the cop. The cop doesn't know.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:31 am to OweO
quote:This passes for 20121 "journalism".
The Trooper George Smyrnios was caught on surveillance video tasing 16-year-old Jack Rodeman more than once on the back deck of the teen’s girlfriend’s home, where he had permission to be.
"caught"? inflammatory & judgmental term
how about "displays"?
"where he had permission to be"
Again, judgmental with intent to influence the reader against the LEO.
The LEO did not know if the kid had permission.
Had this happened to one of my kids, I'd have told them something along the lines of "play stupid tricks, win stupid prizes".
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:32 am to AllDayEveryDay
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It’s against the law not to comply with a police officer’s instructions.
quote:
It's also the police officers right to arrest your arse by whatever method he deems necessary.
WTF is wrong with you people?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:33 am to Pettifogger
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I also don't advocate for dropping harmless teens presenting no threat onto pavement with a taser when the situation was under control and you could have waited 3 minutes to see if the girlfriend showed up as the kid claimed.
The problem with this is that it's all hindsight.
Yes, of course in hindsight the kid presented no threat (maybe), but there was no way that cop could've known that. shite, for all he knew the kid was texting a nearby armed accomplice.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:34 am to chryso
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Or his accomplices show up to shoot the cop. The cop doesn't know.
LOL
I'm sorry. I'm pro-police, but wild speculation is not justification for use of force. In a practical, street-wise sense, the kid probably had it coming for darting around.
But my position isn't premised on the poor kid, it's premised on my belief that cops should have to perceive a serious threat to use a taser. That wasn't present here.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:34 am to Pettifogger
Anyone who thinks this cop should have taxed this kid is a fricking moron
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:35 am to UGATiger26
quote:
Yes, of course in hindsight the kid presented no threat (maybe), but there was no way that cop could've known that. shite, for all he knew the kid was texting a nearby armed accomplice.
This isn't a jihadi, using a cell phone is not, last I checked, a basis for perceiving imminent bodily harm.
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