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re: Teacher Pay Is So Low in Some U.S. School Districts That They’re Recruiting Overseas
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:16 am to Scruffy
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:16 am to Scruffy
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Their profession is not exclusive or taxing to enter. It is not selective.
The same thing is happening in medicine as reimbursement declines and regulation increases and fewer Americans want to go into lower paying specialties - give more power to the underqualified NPs and PAs, etc. and recruit foreign workers who are just happy to not have to be in their dogshit countries anymore and will work for much less.
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Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:16 am to tiderider
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my entire teaching career
Great communication skills exhibited by a career educator. I can count on no fingers how many inspired kids have passed through your classroom.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:18 am to AA77
I say just privatize all education. The government, as is tradition, cannot do anything but waste money and screw everything to hell in a hand basket. Why would education ever be any different from everything else they put their hands to?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:19 am to TH03
Im with you TH03!
If they want more pay, make the job more lucrative and selective.
Do teachers have some form of licensure they have to reapply for every x years?
If they want more pay, make the job more lucrative and selective.
Do teachers have some form of licensure they have to reapply for every x years?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:24 am to AA77
I wonder how much illegal immigration plays into this whole thing.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:28 am to Mike da Tigah
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I say just privatize all education.
I tend to agree, but then what about kids whose parents can't afford it? It's not like we're going to cut taxes just because they don't go to the school district anymore.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:31 am to CoachChappy
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Quick hijack. Didn't you and your wife adopt some kids recently? How are you finding the time to still coach? When my daughter was born, I gave it up. It was one of the best decisions I ever made. I had time to get a Masters and am looking for an admin job as we speak.
Hey coach, I wish I could quit but it is tied to my job. I tried to quit and they told me I would be fired. I am at a really good school so I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.
It really sucks because my wife has to take care of all three of our children while I am at practice and at games etc. I have been looking into other jobs that I could do so my wife could quit and stay home with the kids which is what she wants but any job I can get making that much money will require me to be away all the time.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:32 am to 50_Tiger
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Do teachers have some form of licensure they have to reapply for every x years?
Yes, we have to keep a certain grade as a teacher or we will lose our license.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:33 am to TH03
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I tend to agree, but then what about kids whose parents can't afford it? It's not like we're going to cut taxes just because they don't go to the school district anymore.
Education is one of the only things where the government can get a good return on its investment. Educated societies produce at a higher rate. I'm fine with my tax money going to education, just stop the waste like all other arms of government spending.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:34 am to AA77
Maybe some of these Caravan Migrants would be interested in the job.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:45 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Nobody said you are. You are getting paid $59k (national average) for 9 months of work.
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When one counts the benefits, time off, and defined benefit retirement plan teachers are over $100k per year in real wages with almost zero risk of getting fired.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:47 am to AA77
Nb4 teachers who work 4 months out of the year complain about not getting paid enough
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:48 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You don't pay social security, have denied benefit retirement and have really really low insurance costs, those are all forms of compensation.
And absolutely no where in my post did I mention anything about benefits. I was only talking about time off and how teachers are not paid for that time off.
We do not pay into social security but we also don't get social security when we retire. So I don't see how, in any way, that is a perk. We do pay into a retirement for our pension. And our really low insurance costs are because of the sheer volume of us enrolled. That is kind of how it works. But yes, those are perks (minus not paying S.S.) but again, I didn't even mention those at all in my post.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:50 am to AA77
Teachers have this bloated sense of public/private sector pay. They are paid well for the 9 months they work. Welders, etc make more because their job can kill them, and will more than likely disable them.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:51 am to BigB0882
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We do not pay into social security but we also don't get social security when we retire
So you don't get a benefit that you don't pay for?
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So I don't see how, in any way, that is a perk.
Because most people pay in more than they draw in retirement and time value of money.
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We do pay into a retirement for our pension.
Not Anywhere close to what you draw.
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We do pay into a retirement for our pension. And our really low insurance costs are because of the sheer volume of us enrolled. That is kind of how it works
Well not really most of it is just subsidized by your employer, but that's still a factor of total compensation.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:52 am to WHS
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I wish I could quit but it is tied to my job. I tried to quit and they told me I would be fired. I am at a really good school so I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I had one of those positions once. It does suck. Good luck bro.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:54 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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We do not pay into social security but we also don't get social security when we retire
So you don't get a benefit that you don't pay for?
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And our really low insurance costs are because of the sheer volume of us enrolled. That is kind of how it works
Well not really most of it is just subsidized by your employer, but that's still a factor of total compensation.
Jesus, this guy is teaching our children.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:01 pm to CoachChappy
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I had one of those positions once. It does suck. Good luck bro.
Thanks coach!
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:02 pm to UGATiger26
quote:and if your kid gives a shite about pitching but just doesn't have the arm...
In other words, you could hire John friggin Smoltz to teach your kid how to pitch. But if your kid doesn't give a shite about learning how to pitch, it doesn't matter how great of a pitching coach Smotlz is.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:15 pm to UGATiger26
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Educators can't be treated the same way that private-sector businesses are treated, because the "product" they are providing is oftentimes not even desired by the "customer" (the student). The teachers need the willing cooperation of their students in order to succeed. That's often not true in most businesses, because the cooperation of the customer is a given (because why the hell would you freely spend your money on something you don't want?) In other words, you could hire John friggin Smoltz to teach your kid how to pitch. But if your kid doesn't give a shite about learning how to pitch, it doesn't matter how great of a pitching coach Smotlz is.
That is exactly right, but people don't want to hear that. More than 50% of my students won't even bring pencil and paper to school. The easy answer to that is that we teachers aren't motivating and inspiring them. Several years ago the state department of education, responding to a politically created public outcry, determined that teachers had to be made accountable. I'm all for teacher accountability, but the method that they created to determine accountability is ridiculous. Two observations per year, one announced, one unannounced, where the teacher is expected to put on a dog and pony show to score well on a rubric created by non-educators. An even larger part of accountability is state test scores. This creates an impossibly unlevel playing field because different grade levels and different subjects take different types of tests, some take no test at all. These test scores are basing my performance and effectiveness on what level that same group of students that I mentioned before perform at. The test score has zero impact on the student who takes it, however.
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