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Study: Louisiana loses college grads to Texas and other states

Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:42 am
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:42 am
Big issue here is lack of white collar jobs. Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and Lake Charles have a very robust industrial sector - but not much in the way of corporate headquarters.

The state has relied on tax credits and other incentives to lure employers to the area, but that seems to just not be a priority anymore.

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Lucy Bui would have liked to stay close to her family and find a job in Louisiana after graduating from LSU with an architecture degree in 2022. But the professional opportunities were not in Louisiana, she said.

She quickly accepted an offer with a firm in Dallas.

“I would never grow as a professional if I stayed in Baton Rouge,” said Bui, who grew up there. “Staying home in Louisiana wouldn’t have fulfilled my ambition and desires of becoming a well-rounded person.”

The quality of life in Dallas is higher than anything Bui could find in Louisiana, she said. The city is diverse, has a significant number of events and amenities, and has many young professionals around the same age from across the country.

Bui said New Orleans has a taste of all of that, but too little to keep young people in the state.

“They can’t see a future with Louisiana. They want better job opportunities and quality of life,” Bui said.



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Louisiana’s nine largest metropolitan areas lost a net 317,500 residents from 2005 to 2020, according to further analysis of the data conducted by the Manship School News Service. New Orleans, which experienced significant population loss in the years following Hurricane Katrina, accounted for 78% of those losses.

About 178,000 residents, or 56% of the net loss, moved to Texas. Other popular destinations were Arkansas, Arizona, Georgia and Tennessee. Altogether, 85% of Louisiana’s net population loss went to other Southern states. Louisiana also lost population to the West and Midwest.

But the state’s metro areas gained nearly 8,000 residents from the Northeast.

The breakdown of migration patterns among each metro area offers other insights, according to the analysis:

· Baton Rouge, Lake Charles and Hammond bucked part of the trend, bringing in more residents than they lost.

· Excluding the New Orleans MSA, those 55 and older were the second largest age range to leave the state.

· And Lake Charles was the only city to bring in more bachelor’s degree holders than it lost.

The 2020 Census showed slow growth for the state’s population as a whole, well below the national average. Rural north Louisiana saw significant losses, and what little population growth there was in Louisiana occurred almost entirely in the southern half of the state in urban areas.

“We’ve been seeing population loss in our rural parishes. But what this shows is that we’re exporting people even from our MSA’s, which should be the locus of professional economic activity,” said Tim Slack, a demographer at LSU.


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Despite Louisiana’s outmigration patterns, national data suggests that Louisiana isn’t suffering from brain drain nearly as much as other, smaller and more rural states.

Louisiana does fairly well, in 17th place, when it comes to keeping and attracting college grads compared to other states, according to a paper published in the National Bureau of Economic Research and an analysis by the Washington Post last year.

States such as New Hampshire, Vermont and West Virginia, for example, experience the worst brain drain in the U.S. Unsurprisingly, states with large cities – New York, California, Illinois, Texas – pull graduates from all over the country.


Not sure how to turn this tide. Texas is going to eventually be weighed down by taxes and bloat, increasing the costs of living - especially as the demographics and politics change. But Louisiana needs to not wait for that to happen. It needs to be competitive in more than just the petrochemical industry.

I think the best course of action is to shovel cash into the colleges/university systems and try to attract more research jobs. Ideally we could revamp our tax code, but until that happens more deal sweeteners from the state in the form of tax credit and job training would have to be beefed up.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:44 am to
:gaucho:
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:45 am to
TOPS needs to go
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:46 am to
no shite.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:46 am to
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Study: Louisiana loses college grads to Texas and other states
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:46 am to
Ya don't say!!??

I have 2 kids and will encourage them to look outside of Louisiana for college and beyond.

Travel around a bit and see how behind our state is in EVERYTHING. Corrupt politicians, harsh business environment, high taxes, insurance, etc. This state is going backwards.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:47 am to
What year is it? 1986?

Unless they plug into a family business or firm gtfo of LA.

Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:48 am to
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TOPS needs to go

Brain drain will just start after high school instead of college.
Now restricting TOPS to actual high achieving students is something I would do
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:50 am
Posted by dallastiger55
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:48 am to
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Louisiana’s nine largest metropolitan areas lost a net 317,500 residents from 2005 to 2020,


Damn

And those are all the tax base you need to make things better
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:48 am to
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TOPS needs to go



TOPS needs to be for the best students.

And then we need some pathways to a successful career for those people in Louisiana.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:48 am to
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Not sure how to turn this tide.

You can't.

Seriously, it's not possible. Our population is the inverse of what is needed. There are no attractive options for companies.
Posted by BobABooey
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:49 am to
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TOPS needs to go

I get what you’re saying but that will just help drive up enrollment at universities like Arkansas and Alabama that are generous with scholarships for out of state students. At least with TOPS you have some additional time to give them a reason to stay after college.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:50 am to
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TOPS needs to be for the best students.

I mean decreasing the population of people who would remain in LA as educated potential producers is a bold strategy given the context of OP

The good students are the ones going to TX.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:50 am to
I'm one of those. I gave Louisiana all the chance I could, but let's all be honest... It's not a state meant for medium to high achievers. The bigger cities obviously punish anyone who is successful attempting to cater to the garbage.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:52 am to
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I think the best course of action is to shovel cash into the colleges/university systems


They have enough money ffs
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:52 am to
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I have 2 kids and will encourage them to look outside of Louisiana for college and beyond

I've encouraged our youngest to leave after college if she doesn't go out of state for that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:54 am to
Thank you Captain Obvious
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:54 am to
Education and infrastructure are the big ticket problems. Louisiana doesn't invest in itself. I could even argue that it doesn't exploit its natural advantages as much as it should too.

Getting a pothole repaired is like pulling teeth. Local politicians accomplish so little, but pretend like they are doing so much. And there's now decades of low expectations from taxpayers. That has to change. Nobody is going to vote to tax themselves when they know they won't see a realistic improvement

And major projects like the Darlington Reservoir or the new bridge in Plaquemine get bogged down and never built despite both being desperately needed. There's just not enough leadership or trust to get that done.
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:54 am to
File this one under "Duh"

Also, water is wet.

I headed for Dallas as soon as graduation was over and never once has the thought crossed my mind of moving back to Louisiana
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