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re: Study: Louisiana loses college grads to Texas and other states

Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10905 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:52 pm to
I left in 1988... Just returned last year. I was very bitter for years that Louisiana let many like me down. The economy was bad.

I loved living in Texas. My kids still live there as it is their home. The wife and I moved back simply because La is home for us.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:04 am
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32594 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Now restricting TOPS to actual high achieving students is something I would do

Forgivable loan after 4 years of Louisiana state income tax returns are filed. Otherwise, you pay back the loan like everyone else.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55839 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:03 pm to
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I’ll also add that while I can’t speak for all of the state, it seems like everyone I know who left the NOLA metro after college has for the most part returned home after a few years.

this is a good bit of my HS graduating class (at least of those who actually graduated college)
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29313 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Now restricting TOPS to actual high achieving students is something I would do


Well you're right but the problem is that's racist.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23660 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:58 pm to
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I make almost twice that in Texas.

cool... then repaying the amount you were awarded via TOPS shouldn't be a problem, big baller...

the point is you don't HAVE TO take TOPS money... if you want the freedom of choice after college, simply don't take the TOPS money, pay your own way... no one is forcing you to take it... but the point is, if you do, then there should be stipulations, period, end of story...

but i do admire you for the subtle brag you trying to throw in there... my man
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:59 pm to
They have to be better than Mississippi, all youth is fleeing the state college education or not. Bama has huntsville, mobile etc so probably ok
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:26 pm to
White flight
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3007 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:40 pm to
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Now restricting TOPS to actual high achieving students is something I would do


This.

And this is coming from a former underachieving West Monroe High School student. I'm doing fine now, but I probably didn't deserve to have my education paid for by the state. I lived at home and had an additional scholarship from Tech, that I'm sure was subsidized by the taxpayers. Basically totaled up to a free degree.

The investment from the state wasn't worth it because I'll never move back.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1898 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:07 am to
This would be like trying to turn the Titanic a few seconds before hitting the iceberg. Party is over.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 1:08 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33201 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:42 am to
How much money was spent on a study that tells us the same thing we’ve been saying for 20 years? Those are all the reasons we left and all of the Louisiana friends we made here. The Brain Drain in Louisiana has accelerated over the last generation. The sad thing is that people in Louisiana have no idea how poorly they are serviced by the state until they leave and experience a better quality of life.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:35 am to
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How much money was spent on a study that tells us the same thing we’ve been saying for 20 years?


From what I hear y'all talk about forever, aren't "studies" a big chunk of your "economic" activity in the state? An outsider would conclude y'all just naturally study things a lot, that and run into each other on the highway and sue.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33201 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:51 am to
Louisiana studies the crap out of things and rarely actually do anything in under 10 years. One of the biggest shocks I had when we moved to Texas was how quickly things got approved and completed. That and the well built, litter free roads.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1831 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:18 am to
Study result. People voted with their feet.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6461 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:38 am to
From Bunkie to Baton Rouge to Lafayette to Texas and I'll never go back.

The sheer quality of life improvement and career opportunities just across the state line make me not even consider Louisiana an option to live and raise kids.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7921 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:52 am to
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Getting a pothole repaired is like pulling teeth. Local politicians accomplish so little, but pretend like they are doing so much. And there's now decades of low expectations from taxpayers.

I never understood how pitiful something like fixing/upgrading a road in Louisiana was until I moved. "Wait, you're telling me it doesn't take a decade to revamp a quarter-mile of highway?"
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22388 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:19 am to
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quote:Or TOPS comes with a stipulation that you stay in state for a period of time after graduation. stay for what jobs?


whatever jobs the state has to offer. If they don’t have jobs in your field then don’t take the free $.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45849 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:38 am to
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I left in 1988... Just returned last year. I was very bitter for years that Louisiana let many like me down. The economy was bad.

I loved living in Texas. My kids still live there as it is their home. The wife and I moved back simply beacuse La is home for us.
Nah, had to be for the amazing education you got in LA.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4291 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:27 am to
People in Louisiana are very stubborn. The folks I know say they know for a fact LA is where they want to be etc. etc.

The thing is, none of them have ever left for longer than a week bender in Florida.

Its very entertaining when this conversation starts. Literally none have left but ALL know this is the best place for them and their kids.

Mind blowing really.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22388 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:57 am to
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People in Louisiana are very stubborn. The folks I know say they know for a fact LA is where they want to be etc. etc. The thing is, none of them have ever left for longer than a week bender in Florida. Its very entertaining when this conversation starts. Literally none have left but ALL know this is the best place for them and their kids.


Being close to family is important to many people.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45849 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:40 am to
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Being close to family is important to many people.

Family, yes. It is also work to stay actively in touch with friends. If you leave and they stay, and you are successful and grow in your career, it's interesting to see how you get treated. Some fall by the wayside because you being successful reminds their wives of their failing to grow their career and take better economic care of the family. So they never call or have time for you when you return. To most REAL friends, though, none of that matters. If it's 10 years before you see them again, it's like you were there with them just a month ago. Real friendships know no time. Same as family. Real friends applaud the decision you made to better your life.

Considering retiring, soon, and while it is somewhat attractive to move back close to family and friends from LA, my wife is from Utah and her parents have offered her land where this is the back of the property:





Of course, winters can be a real bitch, too. But we also like to ski, and Park City is just on the other side of the mountain range, so, it balances out.



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