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Stepson Picks the Trades

Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:06 am
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2559 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:06 am
TLDR:
Stepson who played an extra year of HS football to get a full ride somewhere just misses, and chooses to work/play for the Apprentice School in Newport New Va.

Background:
Stepson lived/breathed football for the last 10 years. Good student, A’/B’s without seemingly any effort. And good SAT. But school was a means to an end. His goal was always to be good enough to play college football. He’s a tweener, however. He’s 6’1 and plays at 240, defensive end. He wasn’t happy w the local HS, so he and his mother pestered me for months to let him reclass and do his senior year again at a private school. He had great success, they won another state title, he was All Conf / All State for the private school league they are in.

His Life Goal
My stepson, after going to private school and hanging out with wealthy kids for a while, had decided his path is to open his own business. I’d been telling him for years that owning your own business is the real opportunity to wealth here in the US if you are willing to bust your arse.

He also refused to consider a STEM degree. He doesn’t want to sit at a desk like I did.

Football offers:
Got offers for a bunch of Div 3 and a couple of Div 2 teams. The most compelling was one close to us, Hampden Sydney in Farmville Va. Male only, liberal arts / business, created in 1775, every building on the Natl Historic sites registry. Bunch of rich families, lots of alumni, tradition. I did the parents tour. They have beaucoup money. The football facilities for a div3 team were amazing.

But, in his final offer, they would not pay everything. We’d have to come up with 10K / year. Kid knew it would come out of his college fund. So he was undecided. Most of the football offers were looking like this - I think they want you to have a little skin in the game.

Another interesting offer was from the Apprentice School in Newport News. Run by Huntington Ingalls shipyards, they offer 19 different shipbuilder trades, in 4/8 year apprentice programs. They actually have Div 3 sports, including football. And they pay $25/hour to go there to work and learn.

Other college:
His grades / SAT were good enough to get accepted in th Va Tech biz school (and JMU, LSU, etc), but just as a normal student - no football. But at 30K / year, he said hell no.

AI Influence:
I started the corp Robotics practice at a Fortune 100 company about 7-8 years ago. We’d automated 100’s of processes that freed up temps saving lots of money. Next I was getting into Claude and Copilot AI when I retired. I was concerned that if my stepson went for just a Business degree (instead of STEM) that’d he might not have all the job opps he would have 10 years ago because of AI / Robotics.

Decision:
He interviewed at the shipyard and requested to join the Electrical apprenticeship. Apparently most kids ask for this but get assigned something else. Since stepson is gonna play football for them, they quickly agreed and he’s getting what he wants. He starts July 13.

Parents are happy
We’re finally gonna kick off our late life travel plan. Younger nurse wife (no pics) is gonna work and we’re gonna live different places for the next 5 years. First up, given our news above, is Virginia Beach. We’ve already got a condo on the water through fall so we can be on hand to watch the stepson play his games.

Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78248 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:10 am to
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But, in his final offer, they would not pay everything. We’d have to come up with 10K / year. Kid knew it would come out of his college fund. So he was undecided. Most of the football offers were looking like this - I think they want you to have a little skin in the game.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue, but isn't that exactly what it's there for?

Either way, good luck to him, genuinely.
Posted by olehickory1767
Member since Dec 2024
51 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:11 am to
Congrats, and what a great opportunity for your stepson. Holler at me if you travel to New Zealand and Australia, as I’ve lived in one and planning on moving to the other soon.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13193 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:15 am to
Ingalls is good if he sticks with it but the shipyards have a lot of turnover. If it’s welding, electrical whatever the actual trade is, I’d go talk to the union hall apprenticeship before fully committing. If he gets a IBEW journeyman ticket, he can work anywhere in the country.
If he gets on with a company there and they keep him fine, but if work slows in one area, he can always pack up and work somewhere else. Look up where2bro to get an idea of the packages and outlook. Good luck to him.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31363 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:16 am to
TLDNR I am going to wait for the Reader's Digest condenced version to be published.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
12283 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:25 am to
Congrats to you and your step son.

I was stationed in Newport News once. Don't expect too much.
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2559 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue, but isn't that exactly what it's there for?
Because I guess I naively thought these colleges would actually be willing to completely cover all costs to play football / attend.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122682 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:31 am to
I like how becoming a tradesman on the OT is an honor akin to joining the military after 9/11 or during war time.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78248 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Because I guess I naively thought these colleges would actually be willing to completely cover all costs to play football / attend.


Depends on the level. Any 4 year level below D1, and sports are a driver of tuition revenue for the school. D2 and D3 baseball programs have JV teams, some D3 baseball programs will have like 65 guys on a roster for the 38 game schedule. It's a wildly different world below D1.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
19216 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Another interesting offer was from the Apprentice School in Newport News. Run by Huntington Ingalls shipyards, they offer 19 different shipbuilder trades, in 4/8 year apprentice programs. They actually have Div 3 sports, including football. And they pay $25/hour to go there to work and learn.



You and your son need to both be aware that shipyards are extremely dangerous places to work. The work is hard, long, and often has a lot of turnover for that reason, but the pay is good.

Id take that apprentice program, learn what I can and then use that to make a move.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74781 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I was stationed in Newport News once. Don't expect too much.
Newport Bad News

Not all of Virginia is nice.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6888 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Hampden Sydney in Farmville Va. Male only, liberal arts
Male only liberal arts college? That couldn’t sound more gay. Be glad he isn’t going there.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10612 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:43 am to
Did AI write this post? Because it’s organized and reads like AI wrote it.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11919 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:44 am to
An interesting read, thanks for the effort here (and for your stepson).
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2559 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Did AI write this post? Because it’s organized and reads like AI wrote it.
I'll take that as a compliment. I wrote that in 10 mins while drinking my coffee this AM.

I guess it's one thing I do miss in retirement. Creating clear, concise communications for the teams / orgs I worked for, to drive work.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25408 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:56 am to
The trend with my kids' older classmates/teammates who graduate and get offers to play for small schools or community colleges seems to be this. They'll go to these DII/DIII schools for a year and then try to transfer to a bigger school. Many of them have walked onto some mid-size schools and work the depth chart to get 3rd or 4th string but after awhile, they usually understand when the journey's over.

The road to business success is paved with kids who knew when it's time to call it a sports career.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24191 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I guess it's one thing I do miss in retirement. Creating clear, concise communications for the teams / orgs I worked for, to drive work.


You need to make sure he understands 2 things.
1.) there’s a lot of guys in the trades that got their through bad decisions. Not exactly the best influences on a young 18-30 year old
2.) you don’t want to be doing trades in your mid 40s and later. You want to be a manager. Sure the office cubicle may suck when you are 25, but it certainly doesn’t suck as much as turning wrenches when you are 55
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2559 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:03 am to
Yep. He's gonna be in the hull of those ships in July, August, gonna feel it first hand.

His ultimate goal is to get out of Virginia for Florida. We have family / friends in PCB, one of whom is an elec contractor. That's what he's targeting.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47775 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:05 am to
robotics/automation is a great choice for the future. the most important thing is building up many skillsets because ai and robotics will kill off jobs even in its own industry but being someone who can fix shite no matter the complexity will always be needed. the principals that you learn and apply in automation and robotics are used in many many industries.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31983 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:06 am to
Nothing wrong with him choosing the trades.
But what the hell are we doing here?

quote:

so he and his mother pestered me for months to let him reclass and do his senior year again at a private school.
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