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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:24 am to Lsut81
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:24 am to Lsut81
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Heres the video they just showed on CNN of Darren Wilson pacing after the shooting
LINK
I am not sure what is more amazing - her ability to read minds and speculate (I didn't see what was happening at the car but here is how it happened).
or the fact that she took this video '30 seconds' after the shooting.... and the other cop was already there standing and talking with Darren? Man that was fast!
Oh and she feared from her safety. Well no not actually but you know.
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:24 am to Redbone
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lol. Somewhat. I've followed your posts since last night. Good questions but you don't seem very experienced at these things.
okay. Unless I was joking, nothing I have said has been ridiculous concerning this case. 
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:25 am to undecided
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Brown is likely to test positive for marijuana but outside of making him hungry it's not likely to have caused him act irrationally
cocaine, meth, pcp, etc...
I'm betting at least one of the three I just listed will be in his system.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:25 am to Lsut81
The girl on CNN did a good job of explaining the state of mind of the murdering cop and the sheer nature of submissiveness of the poor victim
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:25 am to Lsut81
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So the key things we are waiting on
1) Officers statement of what happened
2) Audio communications immediately before and after
3) Officers injuries from the confrontation
4) Browns Toxicology report
5) Counties Autopsy w/ X-rays and accompanying info.
I would like to see crime scene photos to see if there are droplets of blood confirming that MB charged the officer.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:25 am to undecided
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Brown is likely to test positive for marijuana but outside of making him hungry it's not likely to have caused him act irrationally
Time will tell and it will be important. What I see so far is an angry young man. Sorry if that is like an Elvis song but that is what fits most of the available info.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:26 am to SabiDojo
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2. A man who has done something he shouldn't have.
I suspect taking someone's life, whether justified or not, causes a little emotion and reflection shortly thereafter.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:26 am to Lsut81
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I'm more interested if he had speed or pcp in his system.
I wouldn't be surprised if he had only weed or nothing in his system.
A 6'4 290 pound man can be dangerous enough without those drugs.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:27 am to Lsut81
Good god.
We need to teach these people how to speak English, because it's obviously a concept lost on them.
Most of the foreigners I've heard speak better English than some of the clowns they are parading around.
We need to teach these people how to speak English, because it's obviously a concept lost on them.
Most of the foreigners I've heard speak better English than some of the clowns they are parading around.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:27 am to reedus23
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I hear what your saying. It's no big deal. My only concern is, if one hopes for one result of another, one will make the facts fit whatever their desired result is. Let the facts play out. They are changing way to fast as it is.
You nailed it.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:27 am to igoringa
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I suspect taking someone's life, whether justified or not, causes a little emotion and reflection shortly thereafter.
Which watching that also doesn't fit the narrative that the officer was out to shoot him in cold blood. I'd imagine if he was pissed off and did it for no reason, that he wouldn't be moping around.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:27 am to igoringa
Clearly she has no bias 
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:28 am to Who Me
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had only weed or nothing in his system.
A 6'4 290 pound man can be dangerous enough without those drugs.
Yeah. Like I said, it's largely irrelevant unless Brown was on some ridiculous drug like PCP or bath salts.
People are dangerous without pot.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:28 am to kilo
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You have obviously never been in a position where your life was in danger and or had to use deadly force to defend yourself.
My take is there is no way to read into what was going through his mind just by looking at that video. Maybe he was concerned about how to get out of doing something he shouldn't have done. Maybe he was distraught over having had to use his weapon. Maybe he just had to take a leak. Seems both sides are reading a lot into the video that just can't be determined.
I'm more curious if anyone is able to use any of the videos to enhance or see what his injuries looked like. I don't see blood at first glance, but it's so far away I can't tell. Skin might not have been broken anyways. He certainly isn't grabbing his eye(s) like he's in pain and others aren't checking on him or his injuries. At least from the short video I saw. But again, maybe that happened already and just isn't in that video.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:28 am to dawgfan24348
So what training does a police officer have that teaches him how to drag a person into a cruiser? I must have missed that on COPS.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:29 am to dawgfan24348
Cliffs on the past few days?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:29 am to Lsut81
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Which watching that also doesn't fit the narrative that the officer was out to shoot him in cold blood. I'd imagine if he was pissed off and did it for no reason, that he wouldn't be moping around.
I don't think so either, but I guess the argument could be a moment of blind rage after the initial altercation... but I agree with you.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:30 am to SabiDojo
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okay. Unless I was joking, nothing I have said has been ridiculous concerning this case.
Not ridiculous!! Just not experienced, maybe educated on this kind of behavior. I am in no way attacking you. I wish I could type better and faster. You are asking good questions. I could answer to your satisfaction I think.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:30 am to igoringa
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Dr. Michael Baden, the medical examiner, said that all but the last shot, which hit the top of Brown's head, would have been survivable, and attorneys argued that the trajectories of the head shots showed Brown was attempting to surrender to police. "It shows a back-to-front [trajectory] for both of those, and it supports what the witnesses said about him trying to surrender to the officer," Attorney Daryl Parks said. "His head was in a downward position. Had to be, for what had happened. Those types of facts are clear. And we believe that given those kinds of facts, this officer should have been arrested."
"It verifies the worst that the family thinks happened—that he was executed," said Crump. "It confirms what the witnesses said, that this was an execution. That's what the witnesses said from day one." Crump also argued that the trajectory of bullets through Brown's hand and arm make it "obvious" that "his hands were up at some point."
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