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re: St. George’s fact of the day revealed

Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:45 am to
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:45 am to
quote:

When does signing for the petition start and how do you sign it?


Go to https://www.StGeorgeLouisiana.com check the map to see if you're in the proposed area then click Sign Petition at the top and contact them. they'll get a petition to you to sign.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2457 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:00 pm to
While that Advocate article helps, it's hard to believe what they print when they include lines like

quote:

faith-based community organizing group Together Baton Rouge
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:56 pm to
They had a TBR spokesperson on TV last night. Her main three points were that the SG budget was ludicrous, but she had no facts and figures.

Second she was worried that taxes would have to go up for SG(as if she cared) and she was also worried about BR taxes going up too.

Third she was worried about the people who were gerrymandered out of the new SG district even though TBR never hesitated to gerrymander people out of the CATS district for that tax election. What a hypocrite.

And then she griped there was no budget for the ISD even though we all know the petition at hand is just for a new city.

She had little to really say, but you know they are hiring their accountants and attorneys to make up their case.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:22 pm to
Doubled as you suggested.

The property tax in our area in Houston is relatively low compared to others. But our total property tax including MUD is $4,200 per year. Of the three bills that make up the 4,200. $1,959 is for the Cypress-Fairbanks ISD.

Property tax in EBR for a 200K home is $1,500/ yr?

For shits and giggles, for our salary if we paid state income tax in Louisiana that would be $7,300 in state income tax that we are saving.

You are correct, Louisiana is taxed more than what people lead on.

From this site:
LINK


LOISIANA: Salary100,000.00 USD
Federal Income Tax- 15,409.50 USD
State Income Tax- 3,555.43 USD
Social Security- 6,200.00 USD
Medicare Tax- 1,450.00 USD
Total Tax- 26,614.93 USD
Net Pay*73,385.07 USD


TEXAS Salary100,000.00 USD
Federal Income Tax- 15,409.50 USD
Social Security- 6,200.00 USD
Medicare Tax- 1,450.00 USD
Total Tax- 23,059.50 USD
Net Pay*76,940.50 USD

Then you factor in cheaper home insurance, car insurance, electric, gas, water, and basically everything you buy. Although this may not apply to everyone, but in the burbs, yes. We save between $50-$100 each month alone in electric because of deregulation. Its a pain to shop around every year for the 64 companies and 100's of plans but you can get very cheap electric.



This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6404 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:27 pm to
The TBR spokesperson lives in Woodland Ridge which is in the city limits of Baton Rouge. I believe at one time she was President of their HOA. I would imagine most of the residents of her subdivision disagree with her.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30263 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

. At some point, either everything is going to have to improve or the whole thing will fall apart.


I agree and I believe we are now at that point. Things are not improving no matter how much money is thrown at attempting educate the kids living in NBR. Because of that, things are falling apart which is what we’re seeing with St George.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6455 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:49 pm to
Yeah so I looked. A lot of growth in pension liability which is understandable and really out of the city/parisgh control, but the bulk is in general fund which is harder to rationally justify.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30263 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Second she was worried that taxes would have to go up for SG(as if she cared) and she was also worried about BR taxes going up too.


In all likelyhood, taxes will eventually increase in both districts whether they separate or stay together. If St George is formed, at least those higher taxes will go to schools where the students actually value education and work towards it.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by GeauxLax
Roswell, GA
Member since Apr 2016
288 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:04 pm to
Georgia has all of the above
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

The TBR spokesperson lives in Woodland Ridge which is in the city limits of Baton Rouge. I believe at one time she was President of their HOA. I would imagine most of the residents of her subdivision disagree with her.


She actually came out and said that if St. George happens, people's federal flood damage payments could be in jeopardy. She even started to tear up for added effect. Slimey. These people in Together Baton Rouge have no shame.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:21 pm to
Yes, and it's so big no one notices,
and that's one reason a smaller city might be more manageable than a bigger govt.

ETA: The general fund is more of the discretionary spending. I've noticed how they magically find funds to buy a hospital, build a park downtown, bike paths on the levee, etc.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:22 pm to
quote:


She actually came out and said that if St. George happens, people's federal flood damage payments could be in jeopardy. She even started to tear up for added effect. Slimey. These people in Together Baton Rouge have no shame.

Thxs I had forgotten about that. That was pretty sorry.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:


In all likelyhood, taxes will eventually increase in both districts whether they separate or stay together. If St George is formed, at least those higher taxes will go to schools where the students actually value education and work towards it.

Yes, no one knows what exactly is going to happen, but we know taxes won't go up without an election.

And who do you want voting on a property tax increase, you and your neighbors or others who have little or no skin in the game?

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:36 pm to
EBR SS has proposed spending 449 million dollars this year.
Revenues are forecasted as follows;
Local- $259.8M
State- 166.6M
Feds/ 4.4M
Other- .8
Balance of $18.9M will come from their reserves.

Enrollment on 8/29/17
41,746 which was 354 fewer than last year. 1,283 fewer than two years before.

What does your Texas ISD spend? How many students?

ETA: I looked it up.

Cy-Fair ISD current budget-$920.4M
Enrollment 115,525

Rough analysis-

Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.
EBR spends $10,755.00 per student

Sidenote, we couldn't afford it if all the private schools in the parish closed.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:58 pm to
I'm looking for the numbers but here is some info about it.

The Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District (CFISD, often referred to as Cy-Fair) is an independent school district in northwest unincorporated Harris County, Texas, United States. Cy-Fair ISD is the largest Recognized school district in the state of Texas with 75 out of 78 campuses receiving an 'Exemplary' or 'Recognized' rating by the Texas Education Agency in 2010.[2]

The district covers a small portion of Houston (including the Fairbanks section), the city of Jersey Village, and other unincorporated areas in Harris County (including Cypress).[3][4] The district covers 186 square miles (480 km2) of land.[5]

Cypress-Fairbanks ISD is part of the taxation base for Lone Star College System (formerly North Harris Montgomery Community College District).[6]

As of August 2016, the district had 88 general-purpose campuses (fifty-four elementary schools, eighteen middle schools, twelve high schools, and four special program facilities)
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Rough analysis-

Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.
EBR spends $10,755.00 per student


And many of those schools are very good. My neighbors are both teachers and said most of the students coming from Louisiana regardless of public or private need tutors.



The Cy-Fair ISD board of trustees adopted a $920 million budget for the 2017-18 academic year at last night’s regular meeting.

Highlights of the budget included increasing the starting teacher salary from $52,025 to $53,000 and a 3 percent raise for all classroom teachers. All other employees in the district are slated to receive a salary increase of 3 percent of midpoint or base salary—whichever is greater.

The district plans to spend $17.4 million on teacher raises and $6.9 million on raises for all other employees.

A Region 4 Education Service Center survey revealed that area school districts typically increase salaries between 2 and 3 percent, said Stuart Snow, associate superintendent of business and finance. Snow said CFISD is competitive with neighboring districts by raising the average employee’s salary by $1,970.


Additionally, the budget provides $7.4 million for the opening of new facilities: Bridgeland High School, Wells Elementary School, Hoover Elementary School, the new Matzke Elementary School campus and a new natatorium—a building that contains a swimming pool—located next to Pridgeon Stadium.


Snow confirmed that CFISD receives less funding per student than a majority of the other large districts in Texas. While the state average is around $8,500 per student, CFISD is funded about $7,600 per student.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

And many of those schools are very good. My neighbors are both teachers and said most of the students coming from Louisiana regardless of public or private need tutors.


I don't doubt it.

Think about this, the leaders in this parish are trying to scare us into thinking our taxes might go up if we want good schools, but Cy-Fair proves otherwise. But the fact is folks here in EBR are putting more than enough money into our school system per student.

What's another district in Texas that we could analyze?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:09 pm to
Katy ISD is really good as well.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Katy ISD is really good as well.


budget $663.9M
Enrollment 77,233 (pre-Harvey)

$8,596.00 per student.

And Texas schools are supposedly better because of high taxes!!!!!
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:21 pm to
Starting teacher salary in Cy-Fair is $53K wonder what it is for EBR?

Very curious what EBR spends their money on. Are they building more new schools every year, more than Cy-Fair?
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