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re: St. George’s fact of the day revealed
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:24 pm to Golfer
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:24 pm to Golfer
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Because Kip saw the growth of the region as positive. My neighbor moved here to BR proper and works at a Chem Plant in Iberville, my co-worker lives in AP and commutes to EBR. It's a good tool to use to show how the region as a whole saw a boom of activity and new residents.
Kip was the closest thing to leadership the metro area has seen in decades.
I did not always agree with him, but he was a good leader for the area.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 5:26 pm
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:25 pm to the paradigm
Fact number two: St. George is The Dragons
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:32 pm to Golfer
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Remember, St.G is trying to get people to trust them, buy into their idea. And to start it off with the "Baton Rouge Library budget is $58M" when the library system is for the whole parish, and a quick google of the budget comes in around $40M...leads people to wonder.
And today's fact doesn't define "major Louisiana cities"...pretty important, IMO.
All very true. The details are thin on what we want to do with having the city, and these facts without numbers to back them don't help their credibility.
This one today, I don't care about the definition of a "major" La city as much as how they got the spending growth numbers. Especially given how the flood recovery spending would have balooned the 2017 numbers.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:43 pm to the paradigm
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My only question is, how much of this was due to the influx of people who moved here following Katrin
I am sure the oil spill didn’t help either
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:58 pm to tigers win2
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Kip will run for mayor of St George. Can’t claim it’ was about race when first mayor elected is non-Caucasian
Posted on 3/6/18 at 6:14 pm to CarRamrod
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lowered and leveled out months after katrina.
Katrina happened in 2005.
Oh, I’m with ya — just wondering how SWB & her crew are gonna spin it
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 6:16 pm to the paradigm
Can someone explain this? Is it because the white kids don’t want to go to school with the poor blacks? I’m not judging. I’m trying to understand this movement.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 6:17 pm to the paradigm
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Oh, I’m with ya — just wondering how SWB & her crew are gonna spin it
It's racist to try to improve your community.
That's how.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 6:30 pm to doubleb
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I agree with you there. Open book, site your facts. They need to definitely do that.
Those numbers are pretty easy to pull off the legislative auditors website. I'd do it if I wasn't on my phone.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 6:58 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Kip: “Miss Me Yet?”
I sure as shite do.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:24 pm to Giantkiller
There is one public high school in the entire St George footprint. 85,000 plus people and the EBR school system has made almost zero investment in that growing area
That should be their fact of the day every single day. Whoever ran the last campaign was a tricking idiot not to make that the central theme
I live in BR so it doesn't impact me directly. I do like the idea of more kids getting a quality education without their parents having to pay for it. Over the long haul that would certainly help business development, recruiting businesses and retaining growing businesses. Nobody wants to move to Ascension Parish. They do it for their family
If those folks quit moving out to the AP and instead remodeled homes or built new ones out in Shenandoah and other areas with plenty of land available for growth, wouldn't that be better for BR? More people doing their shooing in EBR. More people paying property taxes in EBR. Less sprawl
There is an easy story to tell here that over the long haul this greatly benefits EBR.
That should be their fact of the day every single day. Whoever ran the last campaign was a tricking idiot not to make that the central theme
I live in BR so it doesn't impact me directly. I do like the idea of more kids getting a quality education without their parents having to pay for it. Over the long haul that would certainly help business development, recruiting businesses and retaining growing businesses. Nobody wants to move to Ascension Parish. They do it for their family
If those folks quit moving out to the AP and instead remodeled homes or built new ones out in Shenandoah and other areas with plenty of land available for growth, wouldn't that be better for BR? More people doing their shooing in EBR. More people paying property taxes in EBR. Less sprawl
There is an easy story to tell here that over the long haul this greatly benefits EBR.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:36 pm to the paradigm
I was going to do some fact checking on this since "operating budget" includes federal dollars that can only be spent on certain initiatives but it appears that SRB has a new web site and you can no longer get that info.
I will say this. Under Kip, the city-parish had the highest credit rating of any other municipality in the state. He also made sure it was easy to look up their budgets and salaries.
The pro SG folks made it sound like Kip was some kind of belligerent anti South Baton Rouge jerk when he was quite the opposite. They're about to get what they want. - a government that they can truly complain about and subsequently a new fiefdom to derive power from.
I will say this. Under Kip, the city-parish had the highest credit rating of any other municipality in the state. He also made sure it was easy to look up their budgets and salaries.
The pro SG folks made it sound like Kip was some kind of belligerent anti South Baton Rouge jerk when he was quite the opposite. They're about to get what they want. - a government that they can truly complain about and subsequently a new fiefdom to derive power from.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:37 pm to LSUBadger
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There is one public high school in the entire St George footprint. 85,000 plus people and the EBR school system has made almost zero investment in that growing area
That should be their fact of the day every single day.
Fact: They're trying to form a city, not a new school district.
They could possibly get a school district if they use the city as a bargaining chip. Once they pull the trigger on creating a new city they won't get a school district because EBR parish will be bitter and it won't pass a parish-wide vote.
I'm bookmarking these threads for future bumps.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:44 pm to BeepNode
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Fact: They're trying to form a city, not a new school district.
They could possibly get a school district if they use the city as a bargaining chip. Once they pull the trigger on creating a new city they won't get a school district because EBR parish will be bitter and it won't pass a parish-wide vote.
They tried several times to get a new school district. I forget what entity finally told them it would never happen unless they incorporated first. If I recall correctly Bodi was the one helping them thru the legal process.
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Except from St. George site
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Our effort began as a push to create a new school district outside of the jurisdiction of East Baton Rouge Parish School System. Through the legislative process we were able to create the school district but not able to pass a 2/3 majority constitutional amendment that would fund the schools. Throughout the process we were told that we were only a loosely knit group of neighborhoods and not a city.
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LINK
From Bodi's site he assisted Central in forming their owm school district in 2006 session. Also tried several times for St. George/SE BR Community School Board in 2012, well before imcorporation efforts.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:45 pm to BeepNode
Unfortunately you could be correct
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:55 pm to BigPerm30
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Can someone explain this? Is it because the white kids don’t want to go to school with the poor blacks? I’m not judging. I’m trying to understand this movement.
Has nothing to do with race, at least not for me. Parents just want what's best for their kids, and sending them to a terrible public school isn't that. Almost everyone who can afford it sends their kids to private school because it is pretty much the only way their kids will get a good education. So a portion of unincorporated BR wants to create their own city and create a new school district so they no longer have to pay for private school. An area north of BR called Zachary did this a while ago, and it has been a great public school for many many years. Essentially the St. George people want to do the same thing.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:59 pm to BeepNode
EBR voters are going to be bitter? Right
I'm sure everybody out in Central, Zachary, Baker and the new St George is going to line up to vote against them.
Bookmark all you want, but you are overestimating how much North BR and the Forever BR crowd are engaged on this. People in BR sending their kids to private school are not going to support blocking good schools being added to the metro area
I'm sure everybody out in Central, Zachary, Baker and the new St George is going to line up to vote against them.
Bookmark all you want, but you are overestimating how much North BR and the Forever BR crowd are engaged on this. People in BR sending their kids to private school are not going to support blocking good schools being added to the metro area
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:07 pm to LSUBadger
As someone in the proposed "St.George" I am sympathetic to the cause.
But if I get the vibe my property taxes are about to jump I'm voting "no".
But if I get the vibe my property taxes are about to jump I'm voting "no".
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:07 pm to LSUBadger
SG needs to keep repeating what Kip and company kept saying about Austin, Texas and how we need to be more like Austin.
Well the county that Austin is in has 8 school districts and parts of several others. All SG wants is what people in Austin have, an ISD.
Well the county that Austin is in has 8 school districts and parts of several others. All SG wants is what people in Austin have, an ISD.
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