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re: St. George’s fact of the day revealed
Posted on 3/6/18 at 4:48 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 3/6/18 at 4:48 pm to fr33manator
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So did Gravy’s Waistline
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:00 pm to Golfer
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50,000 people remained in the metro area permenantly.
Also, are they citing these stats somewhere? Everything I found was that EBR Library budget was closer to $40M and with this one, how do they define major cities?
Also we had huge influxes of Federal dollars due to the Gustav and the floods. I wonder how much of that budget growth is attributable to those one time monies.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:05 pm to BlackAdam
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Also we had huge influxes of Federal dollars due to the Gustav and the floods. I wonder how much of that budget growth is attributable to those one time monies.
If they'd just link to the data they're representing, I'd be fine...but they have an agenda. And frankly, are doing a better job this time around. But the facts of the day are intentionally vague enough to get by with whatever data they extrapolated.
And for the record, I'm not against the incorporation. They have the right to do so and I applaud them for doing something about it. I just want them to be as forthcoming and upfront with their electorate.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:06 pm to Golfer
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50,000 people remained in the metro area permenantly.
Not according to Wikipedia
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1990 380,105
2000 412,852 8.6% increase
2010 440,171 6.6% increase
Est. 2016 447,037 [7] 1.6% increase
Since 2000 (Katrina hit in 2005) EBR's population increased an estimated 34 thousand plus.
If you look at BR(the city) alone;
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1990 219,531
2000 227,818 3.8% increase
2010 229,493 0.7% increase
Est. 2016 227,715 [5] -0.8% decrease
The notion that EBR went through this big boom post Katrina is pure fiction. I realize Kip used to say this all the time, but if all these thousands of people are here the records don't indicate it.
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Also, are they citing these stats somewhere?
SG needs to site where there figures are coming from. I agree with you there.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:07 pm to BlackAdam
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Also we had huge influxes of Federal dollars due to the Gustav and the floods. I wonder how much of that budget growth is attributable to those one time monies.
If one time monies funded the large budget growth then the budget would have had to decline.
Has EBR's budget ever declined in recent times? Perhaps in 2009 or 2010 when we had the great recession?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:08 pm to doubleb
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Since 2000 (Katrina hit in 200%) EBR's population increased an estimated 34 thousand plus.
If you look at BR(the city) alone;
I said metro area. Which is the nine-Parish region.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:10 pm to the paradigm
I really don’t understand how anyone living in pain br us against this.
Why should we have to be the ones funding all the bullshite? If north BR actually made any money they would 1000% be pissed if any of the money was used in white areas, hell theyre mad now when money is used in white areas and contribute nothing.
Why should we have to be the ones funding all the bullshite? If north BR actually made any money they would 1000% be pissed if any of the money was used in white areas, hell theyre mad now when money is used in white areas and contribute nothing.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:11 pm to doubleb
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If one time monies funded the large budget growth then the budget would have had to decline.
Has EBR's budget ever declined in recent times? Perhaps in 2009 or 2010 when we had the great recession?
I think that's what he was trying to say. If you pick out say, 2009 when there may have been a dip...and then compare it with 2017 when there was an infusion of FEMA dollars for flooding, then you may have the reason for the fact.
But they could also compare year over year increases, add them together, not use per-capita figures and get the same thing to make the claim.
I'd just be interested in the data/citation of the claims...because stats can be tweaked slightly and end up with a favorable claim.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:12 pm to TigersSEC2010
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To this day, I firmly believe there is still absolutely no reason that the Alton Sterling shooting should've blown up the way it did. It's completely bullshite that it had the repercussions that it did.
It would have blown up less if there was unambiguous and obvious wrongdoing by Police.
A certain political party needed a wedge issue to drive voter turnout when they run shitty candidates with no platform.
2006 was Duke LaCrosse
2012 was Trayvon Martin
2014 was Ferguson/Mike Brown
Baton Rouge was the sacrificial lamb for the 2016 election.
It could have happened anywhere, but the Sterling shooting was just ambiguous enough where logical people would not rush to judgement. Had it actually been an egregious screw up by cops, punishment would have been swift. There would not be much of a story and it would not have served a political purpose.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:12 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
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I really don’t understand how anyone living in pain br us against this.
Why should we have to be the ones funding all the bullshite? If north BR actually made any money they would 1000% be pissed if any of the money was used in white areas, hell theyre mad now when money is used in white areas and contribute nothing.
I'm not against it. I just want clarity from them...and somewhat selfishly, as someone that lives in BR City Limits...I'm not sure what St. G incorporation will do to my area long-term.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:13 pm to Golfer
I agree with you there. Open book, site your facts. They need to definitely do that.
But the boom Kip spoke of is not reflective in the population. The city has been stagnant and the rest of the parish has grown at a moderate rate at best.
But the boom Kip spoke of is not reflective in the population. The city has been stagnant and the rest of the parish has grown at a moderate rate at best.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:16 pm to doubleb
Nope, you let the Together Baton Rouge try to fight the stats and put their information and stats forward first and then they hang themselves when you can refute what they put out.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:17 pm to member12
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Can Kip Holden run again? Serious question. He should be Lt Gov. by now.
Kip will run for mayor of St George. Can’t claim it’ was about race when first mayor elected is non-Caucasian
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:17 pm to Golfer
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I said metro area. Which is the nine-Parish region.
Who cares, the EBR budget is for EBR not the metro area.
But FYI I found this:
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The Baton Rouge Metropolitan Statistical Area, as defined by the United States Census Bureau, is a sprawling area surrounding the city of Baton Rouge. As of the 2010 census, the MSA had a population of 802,484,[1] up from 705,973 in 2000.[2]
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:18 pm to tigers win2
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Kip will run for mayor of St George. Can’t claim it’ was about race when first mayor elected is non-Caucasian
We can't afford him.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:18 pm to TigerGrad2011
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Nope, you let the Together Baton Rouge try to fight the stats and put their information and stats forward first and then they hang themselves when you can refute what they put out.
I disagree
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:19 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I can't wait to watch SWB and Gravy have fricking meltdowns when St. George gets enough signatures this time around
Broome's candidacy was literally a guarantee that St. George was going to be a reality.
If BR wanted to avoid St. George, they should've voted for Bodi White as Mayor as he was promising to do everything he can to address their concerns and still prevent St. George from happening.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:21 pm to TigerGrad2011
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Nope, you let the Together Baton Rouge try to fight the stats and put their information and stats forward first and then they hang themselves when you can refute what they put out.
Why even let them have the microphone? Kill them off from the beginning. Here I am, as someone that thinks TBR is garbage, and wants to see St. G work is already skeptical of the two stats posted given my quick cursory searches. Things that could easily be cleaned up or cited would go a long way.
Remember, St.G is trying to get people to trust them, buy into their idea. And to start it off with the "Baton Rouge Library budget is $58M" when the library system is for the whole parish, and a quick google of the budget comes in around $40M...leads people to wonder.
And today's fact doesn't define "major Louisiana cities"...pretty important, IMO.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:23 pm to doubleb
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Who cares, the EBR budget is for EBR not the metro area.
Because Kip saw the growth of the region as positive. My neighbor moved here to BR proper and works at a Chem Plant in Iberville, my co-worker lives in AP and commutes to EBR. It's a good tool to use to show how the region as a whole saw a boom of activity and new residents.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 5:24 pm to the paradigm
Katrina was in 2005. The influx of residents would have showed up before 2009
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