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re: St. George on track to collect signatures needed to be put on ballot

Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:42 pm to
Tatman? Where did his kids attend school?

It wasn't EBRPSS? Wonder why not...
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Kip's crowning achievement.


No. Shrinking I-10E at the MRB to one lane was.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:46 pm to
Because he wanted his kids in a private school? Again. I'm not sure what that has to do with his availability to his constituents...but you'll continue to deflect.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35878 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:47 pm to
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quote: Kip's crowning achievement. No. Shrinking I-10E at the MRB to one lane was.




Please tell me you're joking.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:52 pm to
How is that deflecting? What could be possibly tell me to instill hope in his vision for the school system that sucks too much to trust his own kids to?

It's like you're telling me to get a sales pitch from Ronald Mc Donald about how good mcnuggets are while he chows down on a caniac combo.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35878 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:56 pm to
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How is that deflecting? What could be possibly tell me to instill hope in his vision for the school system that sucks too much to trust his own kids to?



What school did they go to?



You do know that private schools, like Catholic High, are very legacy based? People who went there send their kids there and are very active in said school.

The alumni association at catholic is huge.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:59 pm to
His kids are/were in Catholic Schools. I have no issue with his family's decision to educate their kids in an environment that fosters their religious beliefs.

My kids could live in the best public school district in the country and I'm still sending them to a Catholic School.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:24 pm to
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the only ones happy with it are the fortunate minority who proclaim we are better gether(sic), but who elect not to send their children to anything but a magnet or gifted school


The problem with generalizations is that they are wrong. We have five kids, all of whom have attended public schools, with the last one graduating from BRMHS in May. Our kids have attended neighborhood schools for elementary and middle school and BRMHS or McKinley for gifted/talented for high school...all were well-prepared for successful college careers. I live within the proposed St. George boundary and work downtown and am optomistic about the many positive changes taking place in EBRP. Parental choice and concern for the broader BR community are reasons why I am strong opponent of the St. George movement. I will soon no longer have a dog in the fight, but will do what I can to be a part of the education effort prior to the vote.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Absolutely false.

How many fraudulent signatures were there?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35878 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:31 pm to
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quote: Absolutely false. How many fraudulent signatures were there?




Couple thousand.
He's confusing fraudulent with forged.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130924 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:33 pm to
In all fairness, it was 6. The others you may be referring to were simply invalidated.
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4149 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:41 pm to
I am all for the the school system being broken up into smaller, independent districts. I believe that the Superintendent wanted to propose this but it conflicts with the school choice policies that allow children in failing school districts to go to other schools.
Posted by craig8sm
Member since Jan 2015
3371 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:58 pm to
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They bitch about neglect by the City-Parish while conveniently forgetting about the millions and millions of dollars that the C-P spent on transportation and sanitary sewer improvements in that area.



Perhaps. But I've been waiting for over a year to have someone from CP come out and look at what I suspect to be a leaking storm drain in my yard causing a sinkhole. There was a spot where I would literally drop to knee level because of the erosion. I had to put fill dirt into it myself but with all the rain we've had it's sinking more. Repeated calls to CP were useless and basically made me feel like, since you are in that SG area we'll get to you when ever we feel like it.

Way to be better together.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4149 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Repeated calls to CP were useless and basically made me feel like, since you are in that SG area we'll get to you when ever we feel like it.


When the guy at DPW looked at that complaint, I'm sure that's exactly what he thought.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17205 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:02 pm to
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They bitch about neglect by the City-Parish while conveniently forgetting about the millions and millions of dollars that the C-P spent on transportation and sanitary sewer improvements in that area.


And just where do you think that money came from? You speak as though it was a gift to have some of one's tax dollars spent in their own area.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:26 pm to
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So what? You're upset bc the city asked if they wanted to join? Tell me: did SG bother asking them before just including them in the new city?


There was no rush to get in the city like you stated, the city rushed out to recruit people for the most part.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:26 pm to
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When the guy at DPW looked at that complaint, I'm sure that's exactly what he thought.



Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:34 pm to
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In all fairness, it was 6. The others you may be referring to were simply invalidated.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:44 pm to
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The problem with generalizations is that they are wrong. We have five kids, all of whom have attended public schools, with the last one graduating from BRMHS in May. Our kids have attended neighborhood schools for elementary and middle school and BRMHS or McKinley for gifted/talented for high school...all were well-prepared for successful college careers. I live within the proposed St. George boundary and work downtown and am optomistic about the many positive changes taking place in EBRP. Parental choice and concern for the broader BR community are reasons why I am strong opponent of the St. George movement. I will soon no longer have a dog in the fight, but will do what I can to be a part of the education effort prior to the vote.


Mine went to public elementary schools. Mine started out at middle school in a gifted program.

When I saw the next option was not for me, I put them in private schools although each could have gone to a gifted program or a magnet program in high school.

I did that because it kept them in the neighborhood, and still prepared them for college, etc.

Thank God I could afford that. In your case thank God each of your five kids were high achievers.

But what happens to those that are say average students. where do they go to school?

I believe each high school in a school district should have a college prep curriculum with honors courses for the high achievers, and regular courses for others that say aren't looking for college prep courses.

Why can't all kids in a region go to school together and choose their curriculum? Why do we need Magnet Schools at all? Why separate kids, bus them are car pool them across town, or take them out of the neighborhood and send them miles away when you could have those classes right at the neighborhood high school?

Right now we have a super school at BRHS. There are super facilities and super students and teachers. No question about it. For the most part parents are very active and the school has tremendous support. Lee High is getting ready to reopen and it has many of the same advantages. How many hundred will be bused in or transported in to Lee High from all over the parish?

Students aren't together. They are labeled and divided. Why should BRHS, Lee High School, and other programs get better facilities, better teachers, and all the advantages?

You are optimistic about the school system. Why? We passed several taxes several years ago for new school, better teachers and better discipline. We haven't seen any really big positive results.

Instead we've seen discipline issues, hints of scandal, several superintendents, and a lot of the same ole same ole.

I honestly hope the new guy from Zachary is a game changer. He could be, but history tells me he won't be. There are too many who are for business as usual. The entrenched bureaucracy, the unions, and the politicians who all want the status quo are not going to let things change.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:20 pm to
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Why do we need Magnet Schools at all? Why separate kids, bus them are car pool them across town, or take them out of the neighborhood and send them miles away when you could have those classes right at the neighborhood high school? 


I do not thing any one high school can provide for the needs of all students. Students and society would not be well-served any more than our country would be better off if every student attended a college of the caliber of LSU (I am an alum) rather than having the option to attend the Harvard's, Berkeley's and Duke's of the world.The synergy created by students and faculty that are focused on high performing students (music, arts, academics, etc) is key to success. There should be well-supported local schools for "average" students who are either unable or unwilling to perform at a high level, as well as top-tier schools to cultivate our best and brightest. Those "elite" schools are not necessarily unfairly supported. Woodlawn HS is a case in point. It was built not long ago as a state-of-the-art campus that put BRMHS to shame...it provided a good neighborhood school option although most students needed to be bused in due to low population density in the area. We sent our kids to McKinley and BRMHS even though the facilities were sub-optimal (one year at the dilapidated Lee High was a challenge), not because of resources but because of the faculty and student body. As a parent, I could have not been happier with the freedom and flexibility to determine what was best for our kids...I am saddened to think others may not have those same options.
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