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Spinoff thread: legal abortion if death penalty was enforced within 24 hours of verdict?
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:31 am
No exceptions or appeals?
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:33 am to DustyDinkleman
Huh
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:34 am to DustyDinkleman
It's a stupid spinoff.
No
Abortions should not be legal and the death penalty should be a last resort with extreme scrutiny.
No
Abortions should not be legal and the death penalty should be a last resort with extreme scrutiny.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:34 am to DustyDinkleman
The death penalty is never gonna change anything
Do you think crime people are afraid of death? They make songs about it
Do you think crime people are afraid of death? They make songs about it
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:36 am to DustyDinkleman
no
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:40 am to DustyDinkleman
we already have legal abortion. What is your point?
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:43 am to DustyDinkleman
quote:
No exceptions or appeals?
Abortion PUNISHES the INNOCENT and PROTECTS the GUILTY
Death Penalty PUNISHES the GUILTY and PROTECTS the INNOCENT
They are not one and the same. So, no.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:46 am to DustyDinkleman
I'm taking this as a "would you allow legal abortion if the death penalty were enforced within 24 hours" hypothetical.
No, abortion is a moral stain on our current era and should be eradicated. We should execute way more criminals than we do now, but its not a moral stain on society if they receive life in prison vs death.
No, abortion is a moral stain on our current era and should be eradicated. We should execute way more criminals than we do now, but its not a moral stain on society if they receive life in prison vs death.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:47 am to DustyDinkleman
quote:
death penalty was enforced within 24 hours of verdict?
You trust the state that much?
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:49 am to Snipe
quote:
Abortions should not be legal and the death penalty should be a last resort with extreme scrutiny.
Generally I agree but i think there's currently too much scrutiny. There's no reason that it should take 30+ years of appeals or whatever they do to execute somebody. If they're found guilty, then appeal and found guilty again then it should be done. I think 5 years +/- should be the max for the appeal process. Hell, there's been times where the person admits to the crime, pleads guilty and doesn't appeal and it still takes 10 years to execute them and that's absolutely ridiculous.
Eta: But I have no idea what the OP is implying with "legal abortion if death penalty was enforced within 24 hours of verdict?".
Abortions have nothing to do with the death penalty. Also, what's the significance of 24 hours?
What is you talmbout OP?
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 11:53 am
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:59 am to DustyDinkleman
quote:No.
legal abortion
quote:No.
death penalty
Signed,
Roman Catholic
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:05 pm to MRTigerFan
quote:
What is you talmbout OP?
It's a spin off from a thread asking if Abortions were to be made illegal but the caveat was so was the death penalty would you want it? or there abouts.
To your point, Currently death penalty cases do not have 30+ years of scrutiny, The likely have very little which is why you hear of people being proven innocent by dna evidence or some other nefarious actions by the prosecution which lead to their conviction.
Currently we have 30+ years of delay, but given the almost incompetency of our jury trial system maybe that isn't a bad thing.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:07 pm to DustyDinkleman
So innocent babies have to die in order to impose a quick death penalty? Seriously?
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:08 pm to littleavery1948
quote:
Abortion PUNISHES the INNOCENT and PROTECTS the GUILTY
Death Penalty PUNISHES the GUILTY and PROTECTS the INNOCENT
Very well stated.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:14 pm to el Gaucho
quote:
The death penalty is never gonna change anything
That's just doesn't seem logical to me.
I've seen crime shows where the perp said he waited for the victim to cross State lines to a State that didn't have the death penalty before taking action.
Just about every murderer who gets caught does everything in their power to avoid the death penalty.
They will hold onto information of where victims are located and information on other unsolved murders just to use as bargaining chips to avoid the death penalty.
Plus, we don't really enforce the death penalty very often or very timely so you could almost argue that we don't have a death penalty to dissuade people from committing murder.
It's just common sense that it makes a difference on all the murder victims whose murderer was a person who had gotten out of jail AFTER being convicted of a previous murder but given a light sentence.
Plus, you have no way of taking into account people who didn't commit a murder because they didn't want to chance getting a death sentence, because you can't count or prove a negative.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:20 pm to Ben Rumson
Remember when they made a movie about technology that would tell you who was a criminal before they committed crime and they called it the minority report
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:33 pm to DustyDinkleman
frick you.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:30 pm to DustyDinkleman
Idk man - one of those things I struggle with is can you be pro-life and pro death penalty?
I know it’s super nuanced but still.
I know it’s super nuanced but still.
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