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Spain might be next to criminalize sex without affirmative consent

Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:39 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62805 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:39 pm
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Spain may soon join a list of countries to make "yes means yes" the legal standard in sexual encounters. Spanish Deputy Prime Minister Carmen Calvo signaled her intent to introduce legislation that would require clearly expressed consent in sexual contact. The concept is often referred to as affirmative consent, in which both parties agree to sexual conduct, either through clear, verbal communication or nonverbal cues or gestures. Calvo's announcement follows outrage over the release of five men who were convicted of lesser charges in an attack on a female teen during the 2016 running of the bulls in Pamplona.


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"It's something as resounding and perfect as if a woman does not expressly say 'yes,' everything else is 'no.' That's how her autonomy is preserved, [along with] her freedom [and] respect for her person and her sexuality,"


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The proposal would be modeled after similar laws in Sweden and Germany that criminalize sex without clearly expressed consent as rape, Calvo said.




And I always thought "Yes" meant "anal".
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40107 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:40 pm to
Everyone wanted to see what the world would look like with women running it. Here we are.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5310 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:46 pm to
Just cancelled my flight.
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4979 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:50 pm to
Is there like another planet or something that normal people can go live on? Asking for a friend.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17022 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:50 pm to
So I’m guessing dudes need to start carrying legal papers with them when dealing with the ladies
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30407 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:51 pm to
Really takes the fun out of it.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:51 pm to
So you have to ask, can I frick you you?, and get a yes or it’s basically rape?
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 10:51 pm
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:51 pm to
Just ordered a sexbot.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40107 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:51 pm to
Not there yet. Hopefully never will get to that point.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:55 pm to
I thought women wanted equality and could do anything a man could do.

Does the man also have to say yes?
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:57 pm to
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Does the man also have to say yes


This law applies to women too. And the law doesn't require a verbal "yes", you can affirmatively consent in other ways.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124314 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

if a woman does not expressly say 'yes,' everything else is 'no.'




Yeah...this is complete and utter bullshite
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40107 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:59 pm to
What if she’s sucking your dick but never says yes?
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 10:59 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124314 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:00 pm to
You can definitely tell if someone is into it or not. Words are unimportant. It’s about the body language
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48587 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:01 pm to
If I wasn't married I'd carry around a consent form. Not sure what the legal limit is on ability to consent though. I've had a few I'd like to walk back
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40107 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:01 pm to
But their law suggests it has to be a verbal yes.

So why does a dude go to jail in my provided situation? See how fricked this law is?


Edit: nvm saw the second part now
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124314 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:03 pm to
If you have to stop in the middle and get an express consent to proceed, you are doing it wrong.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108567 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:04 pm to
I can’t wait to live in this world:

“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“Yes”
“Can I thrust this time?”
“I just came and am a bit tired.”
“Well I haven’t gotten off yet...”
“RAPIST!!!!!!!!”
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40107 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:05 pm to
Nah I just built this idea in my head that if that law had only a verbal yes requirement and not body language some very spiteful woman could do a drive by blowie



I need to go to bed I’ve lost my mind
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:06 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9521 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:15 pm to
This will do more to stop unwanted pregnancies than banning abortions.

What a mood killer.
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