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re: Southwest Airlines has cancelled 69% of its flights so far today.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:10 am to Gings5
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:10 am to Gings5
Some aviation people are saying WN is going to have to do a hard reset just to recover normal operations. This could easily spillover into next week as they try to reposition crew and equipment. 28 of 35 flights from MSY today are already cancelled.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:12 am to MAXtheTIGER
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WN is going to have to do a hard reset just to recover normal operations.
they haven't been in normal ops since Kelleher handed over the reins, throw in a little weather and they're completely fricked
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:17 am to MAXtheTIGER
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This could easily spillover into next week
Obviously not on the backside of things and don’t know the intricacies, but why would it take longer than 2-3 days?
Shut it all down, you’re already cancelling 70% of flights, so pause everything… use next day/two to reposition crews and turn it back on Thursday with all existing reservations.
Then work on all the reimbursements/changes once you’ve stabilized things.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:22 am to Lsut81
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Obviously not on the backside of things and don’t know the intricacies, but why would it take longer than 2-3 days?
Shut it all down, you’re already cancelling 70% of flights, so pause everything… use next day/two to reposition crews and turn it back on Thursday with all existing reservations.
Then work on all the reimbursements/changes once you’ve stabilized things.
Your flights going forward are already pretty full. You’ve got hundreds of thousands of cancelled seats yesterday and today and probably tomorrow at this rate that have to be rescheduled onto already full flights.
Even if many or most cancelled fliers made alternate plans, that leaves a backlog which will take a very long time to reschedule.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:25 am to MAXtheTIGER
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You’ve got hundreds of thousands of cancelled seats yesterday and today and probably tomorrow at this rate that have to be rescheduled onto already full flights.
If it’s the quickest way to get operations up and running, you have to bite the bullet and pause anything with them until operating 100%… sucks for the customers, but it is what it is.
Cancel 100% of flights today and tomorrow, move crews, turn back on Thursday and then start plugging stranded passengers in the holes.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:31 am to MAXtheTIGER
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You’ve got hundreds of thousands of cancelled seats yesterday and today and probably tomorrow at this rate that have to be rescheduled onto already full flights.
It’s well over a million seats by now.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:34 am to Lsut81
I was able to get my daughter a flight on United last night to SNA. Flight was canceled after she sat on plane for hour and a half. They ran out of paper for the cockpit computer. Now she is booked on a 4:50 am flight on Wednesday. United offered $30 for meal voucher. Says hotel may get reimbursed. So far Southwest has cost me $589 on a new flight, United has cost me $400 in hotel fees.
All 8 Delta flights from Atlanta to LAX were ontime or early yesterday. frick!
All 8 Delta flights from Atlanta to LAX were ontime or early yesterday. frick!
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:35 am to AirbusDawg
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They ran out of paper for the cockpit computer.
they may have but that wasn't the reason for the cancellation
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:38 am to 7thWardTo314
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How long before executive heads roll at SWA?
Good. Woke up to the bs this am. 48 hr notice flight cancelled. 20 yr anniv trip screwed. Thanks SWA. Never again
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:40 am to rattlebucket
I have a flight at the end of January and I had two options: Spirit or Southwest.
I chose SW because I didn't trust Spirit
I chose SW because I didn't trust Spirit
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:43 am to Fun Bunch
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I had two options:
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I chose SW because I didn't trust Spirit
that's like choosing between the needle and the electric chair baw
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:44 am to STLhog
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Or not stuck in Houston, Denver, Dallas, Nashville, Chicago or Vegas for the last 5 days...
I’m speaking of an overall experience. I’ve flown SW many times and this past May was the first time I’ve ever had problems with SW and it was the first and only time I flew out of NOLA. Will only fly out of Houston from then on.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:47 am to 7thWardTo314
Ended up making rental car reservations at hertz in Metairie, showed up and they cancelled it. Then booked refrained cars in Jackson and mobile but could not get a human on the phone to confirm they had a car. Finally got a person on the phone at enterprise in Gulfport; they had a van. Paid an arm and a leg for it (hoping to get some money back from southwest). Currently en route to NC….
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:51 am to lynxcat
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My SiL is trying to get between Houston and Dallas which are two of the biggest SWA hubs in the country and there isn’t a flight for the next two days.
It's only 3 hour drive. Your sil is an idiot
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:01 pm to 777Tiger
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throw in a little weather and they're completely fricked
That’s what got us in the specific incident in May. Wife scheduled us to fly to Boston out of NOLA to save a few bucks instead of Houston. Original flight was NOLA to switching planes in Nashville and then on to Boston.
A week or so before the flight, we get an email that the flight to Nashville had been cancelled. The flight then turned into from NOLA to Houston to Denver then to Boston.
Flight day weather hit us in NOLA and Houston and caused delays which missed out connection from Denver to Boston. Stayed overnight in Denver and flew from Denver to Baltimore and then on to Boston all the while our luggage got sent to Chicago. It was a rough 24 hours. We didn’t get our luggage until about 12 hours after we landed in Boston. That….THAT was a clusterfrick.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:02 pm to Gings5
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We just rebooked a delta flight for $1700 one way to get home to Houston. If Southwest does not reimburse, I will throw hands at any sonic location
Yeah, I looked for options like that with other airlines. The soonest available was a day earlier than southwest rebook and it was 2500 dollars. SW ended up giving a couple hundred in credit back. My kid isn't stranded somewhere luckily, just visiting family, so it will just be an extended stay. With that, frick southwest. Had to reroute and turned a couple hour flight into all day travel on the departing flight over a week ago when it was perfect weather everywhere too. There and back has been complete hassle because of SW, never again.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:05 pm to 777Tiger
It looks like they are trying to operate flights that get planes and crews back to their “hubs” like DAL and BWI. Maybe that’s the first step to a hard reset.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:06 pm to Steadyhands
Currently in the middle of a 20hr drive back to Thibodaux from Breckenridge because SW couldn’t get me home before Saturday.
Luckily I already had a rental but it was an additional $1900 to not return to Denver airport and drop off at MSY
Luckily I already had a rental but it was an additional $1900 to not return to Denver airport and drop off at MSY
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:10 pm to Shoulderchoke
SWA shite the bed here. They once were a great mid sized airport carrier. Once they started going into the bigger airports they signed their demise. People like me were willing to fly with less amenities to avoid being stuck in cluster fricks that occur at the big airports. Now they have all of that on top of tight schedules because the plane only makes money in the air not sitting on the ground. Once upon a time they were a good value for domestic travel. BTW, American customer service sucks too.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:14 pm to iron banks
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Once they started going into the bigger airports they signed their demise.
created and thrived for decades as a niche airline, call it what you will, but a glorified commuter airline, repeal of the Wright amendment and Kelleher getting too old to run the ship has not been good to them, should have stayed in their lane
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