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re: Some people don't want to accept the data that shows the Covid impact hasn't been too bad

Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:19 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:19 am to
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Without the Safer at Home orders this number would be close to 1,000,000 and would probably top 2,000.000 by the end of 2020.



holy fricking shite




That's what those initial crappy models said.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:20 am to
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Without the Safer at Home orders this number would be close to 1,000,000 and would probably top 2,000.000 by the end of 2020.


Classic rationalization.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:20 am to
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If we continued at that rate we'd end up over 850,000 deaths for a year.
Thats buttfricking retarded though

If we continued at the 9/11/2001 rate of plane crash deaths., we would have had 900,000 plane crash deaths a year in america
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:20 am to
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in part because of what Italy went through: massive overwhelming of the hospital system.

where, specifically?

we have better data now and it shows that this simply wasn't as big of a threat as we projected (based on Italy in large part)

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84973 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:20 am to
Hospital staff is being laid off in many places. Hell, even in Louisiana the largest health system is telling its employees they HAVE to take 16 hours off per pay period.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26973 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:22 am to
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do covid deaths get special consideration?


Because it’s brand new!!!???

It’s a new way to die. And it killed a couple hundred thousand. That makes the world miss a beat.

If tomorrow at 12:30 pm 200,000 people were gonna drop where they stood or just die where they lay from some weird new ailment, the world takes notice.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20076 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:22 am to
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Hospital staff is being laid off in many places. Hell, even in Louisiana the largest health system is telling its employees they HAVE to take 16 hours off per pay period.

Ochsner?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:22 am to
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Why do covid deaths get special consideration?



It captured the public's attention.

It managed to do so by being highly infectious and particularly gruesome for patients that were immuno compromised


Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84973 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:23 am to
Yep. They have apparently lost over $500 million already.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118714 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:23 am to
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Hospital staff is being laid off in many places. Hell, even in Louisiana the largest health system is telling its employees they HAVE to take 16 hours off per pay period.



Yeah, hospitals are realizing this COVID lifestyle is not good for business. They are dying for us to get back to the unhealthy rat race stressful life style.

Just kidding...a little.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3489 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:23 am to
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Thats buttfricking retarded though

If we continued at the 9/11/2001 rate of plane crash deaths., we would have had 900,000 plane crash deaths a year in america

It's a 10 day average and we've shut down the economy to get that number as low as possible. If we went back to business as usual or didn't shut down as people have advocated for do you really think the deaths would be lower?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84973 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:23 am to
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And it killed a couple hundred thousand.
Jesus you people are retards.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:25 am to
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ell_13


You think this thing killed 4k people in china?
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:25 am to
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So your strategy here is to just make shite up?


Bookmark this and in a few months when the true numbers come out tell me I’m making shite up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:26 am to
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If we went back to business as usual or didn't shut down as people have advocated for do you really think the deaths would be lower?

i think the eventual number of deaths isn't going to change

the issue is in what time frame do those deaths occur?

the entire point of social distancing was to flatten the curve and stretch out that time frame over a long period of time, so that our hospitals/ICUs weren't overwhelmed. people are now turning that mitigation strategy into an elimination strategy, in hindsight, b/c it fits the doomcasting narrative


*ETA: let me be clear before Antonio shows up. i'm talking deaths directly-attributed to COVID-19, not potential secondary deaths due to hospitals being overrun and unable to give normal care for emergency situations
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65007 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:26 am to
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If tomorrow at 12:30 pm 200,000 people were gonna drop where they stood or just die where they lay from some weird new ailment, the world takes notice.


Well, yeah. Obviously. But these 200,000 deaths have been spread out over a period of months. Not hours.

Originally, the data called for 2.2 million Americans to die if nothing was done, then it was pushed down to 240,000 with mitigation. Now the models are saying between 60,000-70,000 Americans will die of COVID-19 this year - which is right in line with a bad influenza outbreak.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:27 am to
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Bookmark this and in a few months when the true numbers come out tell me I’m making shite up.


You think the numbers are going to be revised down bigly?


Don't be fricking retarded lmao
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:27 am to
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Ochsner


Try OLOL you know how those Catholics are all about the bottom line. And yes the layoffs are true and I know this to be a fact.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:28 am to
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imagine the flu with zero vaccine protection and no herd immunity.
2017-18 flu season?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:28 am to
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for do you really think the deaths would be lower?


How much? What if we shut day wn hotspots and enacted distancing guidelines elsewhere with open business?

It's not all or nothing. To also not a stretch at all to think in many areas we overreacted.
Small businesses are probably a miniscule risk for widespread contagions.
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