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re: Some people don't want to accept the data that shows the Covid impact hasn't been too bad
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:04 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:04 am to GetCocky11
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Some people don't want to accept the data that shows the Covid impact hasn't been too bad
Try to start a post on social media that even suggests us getting back to normal and you will get tarred and feathered!
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:04 am to GetCocky11
As I typed this now states will start claiming PROBABLE deaths reported by the news ????????????????????????????????
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:05 am to Tigersonfire
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destroyed economy
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false, market down only 2000
Sure. Market bouncing back.
After how many be $Trillion down the toilet?
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 9:06 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:05 am to TigerFanatic99
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more people will have died from suicide after having their livelihoods destroyed than will have legitimately died from the virus itself.
Lol so dumb. No
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:05 am to GetCocky11
The people you describe are the same extremists (although opposite side) that said its just the flu and any distancing has been all for not.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:05 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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If you exclude the NYC metro area and its suburbs in CONN and NJ, which represent half the cases in the entire United States and over half of the deaths, we are doing very well as a country.
If you ignore all the bad parts, it’s not bad.
That would be a SINGLE bad part. A progressive run sanctuary city that has more Chinese Americans than Los Angeles yet was behind the country in social distancing and closing schools and still is running packed subways.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:06 am to CharlesLSU
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Question: what would the numbers look like had life gone about with concerts, schools, shopping malls, etc.?
Funny the flu still beats covid with the exact same perimeters. And GURANTEED a high percentage of covid deaths being claimed are actually just the regular ole flu. It will
Come out just wait.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:06 am to CharlesLSU
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imagine the flu with zero vaccine protection and no herd immunity
So like the flu used to be before a vaccine? Life still went on.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:07 am to GetCocky11
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For example, in my area, people are screaming that hospitals are being overwhelmed. I point out that the hospital bed rate is around 50%. They don't care and keep on screaming.
We are not going to ever over run the hospitals. In fact, the hospitals would LOVE to get back to normal operations so they can return to doing elective procedures. Hospitals are losing money at an alarming rate. We can end the quarantine and everything will be just fine. Those people at risk just need to be more careful.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:07 am to Tigersonfire
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Funny the flu still beats covid with the exact same perimeters.
In what way?
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And GURANTEED a high percentage of covid deaths being claimed are actually just the regular ole flu.
So your strategy here is to just make shite up?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Whats interesting is you always seem to justify your position no matter what information is presented to the contrary.
Yes. You are, indeed, an attorney.
Major business centers are high density and without distancing, they can all trend as the areas you do admit to (i.e. NYC, NJ, etc.). The goal of areas outside of the current "hot spots" is to stay ahead of what those have experienced.
I'm very familiar with Houston's current task force and they have shared with me that they are learning from NYC's, NJ's, et al's hindsight. Those areas made mistakes and Houston (along with other big metro areas) are not going to make the same mistakes.
My question to you: are you asserting social distancing shouldn't be enacted?
Yes. You are, indeed, an attorney.
Major business centers are high density and without distancing, they can all trend as the areas you do admit to (i.e. NYC, NJ, etc.). The goal of areas outside of the current "hot spots" is to stay ahead of what those have experienced.
I'm very familiar with Houston's current task force and they have shared with me that they are learning from NYC's, NJ's, et al's hindsight. Those areas made mistakes and Houston (along with other big metro areas) are not going to make the same mistakes.
My question to you: are you asserting social distancing shouldn't be enacted?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:09 am to GetCocky11
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Are people so dug in with their doomsday predictions that they don't want to accept the data
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You show them data and they try to refute you
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They don't care and keep on screaming.
Wiki Article on Choice-Supportive Bias and the Cognition Theories Behind It
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 9:10 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:09 am to SulphursFinest
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social distancing likely mitigated thousands of cases.
There is data that shows that the virus peaked at the same rate whether a country quarantined or not. Expansion begins quickly but also subsides quickly. There is no way anyone could have known this two months ago, but that's what the data is showing.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:10 am to RollTide1987
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So like the flu used to be before a vaccine? Life still went on.
....and a lot of people died. What the frick is your point?
So, it only matters if your immediate family start dying?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:As it has been from the beginning. The arms race to cancel anything and everything for longer and longer was a reaction out of fear of looking as if “nothing” was being done. The justification was based on known bad data and assumptions but that didn’t matter. It wasn’t the point. Act now and try to explain later. It’s easy to hide behind those bad projections.
this is purely political
There is finally some reporting on it although you have to read beyond the headlines. The stories coming out now about why it’s not so bad start and focus on social distancing. But then there’s a paragraph or two about the bad assumptions: the Ro used for the baseline, the predicted hospitalization and vent rates, etc.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:10 am to TigerFanatic99
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When this is all over with, more people will have died from suicide after having their livelihoods destroyed than will have legitimately died from the virus itself.
This is false
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I'll say it again
You can stop saying it, because it’s false.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:11 am to GetCocky11
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Some people
You mean FB Karens and the TDS infected?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:11 am to CharlesLSU
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Major business centers are high density and without distancing, they can all trend as the areas you do admit to (i.e. NYC, NJ, etc.). The goal of areas outside of the current "hot spots" is to stay ahead of what those have experienced.
nope. that literally was not the goal
the goal was the flatten the curve, not eradicated it
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I'm very familiar with Houston's current task force and they have shared with me that they are learning from NYC's, NJ's, et al's hindsight. Those areas made mistakes and Houston (along with other big metro areas) are not going to make the same mistakes.
Houston's advantages are (1) it wasn't a major urban, coastal area and (2) it's not as dense as NYC
Houston could have never closed and would never face the issues NYC faced
guess what: California faced the same issues as NY and did a lot better and was way ahead BEFORE social distancing was the policy
NYC is an outlier (within the US). SK is an outlier on the international stage (for opposite reasons)
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My question to you: are you asserting social distancing shouldn't be enacted?
it should be based on locality or county at worst
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:11 am to terriblegreen
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There is data that shows that the virus peaked at the same rate whether a country quarantined or not. Expansion begins quickly but also subsides quickly. There is no way anyone could have known this two months ago, but that's what the data is showing.
The data in Georgia reflects the same.
ATL and Athens both locked down early. The rest of the state was a couple weeks behind before the statewide shutdown.
The spread rates were ....
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:11 am to Revelator
Because once entrenched in a position, most people would rather believe the delusion than the fact they were wrong.
The hysteria has been truly entertaining though.
The hysteria has been truly entertaining though.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 9:12 am
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