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re: Soldiers describing killing for the first time

Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:42 pm to
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What’s wrong with this? We’re made to kill. To be warriors.

His point of humans killing and fricking for thousands of years wasn't wrong. I imagine some people really feel a primal connection.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:04 pm to
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osh’s take is fricking hilarious


Yeah if I got to be in a fox hole I will take that guy
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:12 pm to
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What’s wrong with this?


Nothing wrong with it, when you're in a war zone. To be back home saying shite like "I miss killing" is a little much.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:26 pm to
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I'd prefer a seasoned vet's opinion



Tour de Europe and Asia for most

many of pussy crushed on tdy
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:28 pm to
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Eh, I've had mixed experiences. Some talk, some don't. It's definitely an tough subject to navigate.



Same, ive had guys in my unit or instructors for various things openly talk about it.

Ive also had a guy in my unit who didn't even want to do combatives bc his experience in Afghan.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:50 pm to
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What’s wrong with this? We’re made to kill. To be warriors.

Warriors made this world. They spread their seeds. They raped and murdered their way across the globe and we have them to thank for the present day.

And one day, they’ll be a lot more killing that needs to happen. So you’d better prepare to either be the predator or be the prey.


You're a liiiitle unhinged, man. Ijs.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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134860 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 12:07 am to
You ever been overseas?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 12:12 am to
Not on active duty. Only as a dependent (lived in Europe when I was in high school).

Wife deployed once, but it wasn't to a high danger area, thankfully.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29439 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 12:19 am to
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I wouldn’t put much stock into the generational thing.. I’d be more willing to bet that it varies from person to person, and not so much generation to generation... who knows
I agree with this.

I don't understand how soldiers, fighting in a war where it's kill or be killed, have remorse for killing the enemy.

I'm not a veteran, but I just don't think I'd have any remorse at all for killing fricking Islamic terrorists.

Like the old saying goes, "Some people just need killing."
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 12:28 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124193 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 1:49 am to
I’ve read and listened to and consumed a LOT of history.

These times we live in...they are soft. History is full of tales of hard, hard men. The violence that was day to day...the combat...melee, up close and personal...

And then you realize that we haven’t changed all that much. Physically, men are the same. We’re the same as our ancestors, the conquerors, the builders, the warriors. It’s the world that has changed. Instead of being born into a world of scraping and fighting for a piece of the pie, we’re living in the lap of relative luxury, where even the “poor” live better than the kings of old.

And like all the empires of old that have grown fat and complacent, that have become bloated and degenerate and filled with degradation...we’re headed for a fall.
It doesn’t take a prognosticator to see the writing on the wall. Look at the history of empires, then look at us.



So I say why is it wrong for a warrior to have enjoyed his time as a warrior?

Would you fault a builder if he said “I miss building”?

Would you call a farmer unhinged if he said “I miss farming”?

Enjoy these halcyon days. Because the future, sooner or later, contains the fall of another empire.
And when it does, it will end in the same spectacular blaze they all do, with fire and blood and steel.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35489 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:35 am to
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Josh sounds like a psycho.

And that's why it's difficult to discuss these kind of things with Joe Blow. Hard to talk about insane situations and sound sane while you do it.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:12 am to
Anyone else have any thoughts or facts regarding Lance's description of the Kosovo War? I have barely studied in the past, but I don't remember a single case of American troops getting into a fire fight. Or any American ground equipment being attacked.
Posted by GeneralLeeAwesome
Chalmette
Member since Aug 2017
554 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 7:13 am to
This is why I don’t talk to anyone about it. I’ve spent 65 months of my military career in either Iraq or Afghanistan. I have some completely messed up stories and I have some views and ideologies that the non military man will understand
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20034 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:16 am to
Kill or be killed essentially is what I gathered as the central theme but each veteran interviewed had different thoughts after the kill. Good stuff.
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
22244 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:37 am to
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but I don't remember a single case of American troops getting into a fire fight



Now, I'm not 100% sure, but I want to say I remember reading a book, about special forces or whatnot, and it made reference to a firefight while a unit was off duty or something to that affect. They were having some downtime and were ambushed and out-gunned. Someone of high importance or someone who was looked up to by all, was killed
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:53 am to
My grandfather (WWII) never spoke about the war. We only learned things through the guys he fought along side.

N. Africa, Sicily, Italy

wounded when he drew MG fire away from his squad as they flanked two MG nests. Earned Bronze Star

I was raised never to ask about the war but summoned the courage one day when I was older.

All he told me was that he marched along a road into combat in sicily while trucks filled with bodies were heading the opposite direction.

It killed me knowing that the man I knew to be kind, loving, and supportive to every soul he met had seen such horrors.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7836 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:55 am to
My great uncle was on a bomber crew and had to bail over Belgium. Killed one man while hiding out with the resistance. He was hiding out in a barn when a patrol came through the town and searched the place.

He said the only thing he regrets is still being able to hear the flashlight the man dropped thud down the wooden stairs when he dreams.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90606 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:43 am to
Josh is high energy as frick
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:05 am to
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And that's why it's difficult to discuss these kind of things with Joe Blow. Hard to talk about insane situations and sound sane while you do it.


Yeah, people that judge how others cope with that stress are why many don't want to talk about it
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:15 am to
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I don't think it would bother me at all.


Unless you're a physcopath it would bother you. I've shot two people, both deserved it and were direct threats to my life. One died, the other did not.It bothered me , not because of those fricks but because I'm human.

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