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re: Soldiers describing killing for the first time

Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:23 pm to
Josh’s take is fricking hilarious
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:23 pm to
I don’t know if it’s generational or not but some might be.

Me and my dad have talked a bunch about his experiences in Nam and mine in this generation and there are a lot of the same attitudes after it smacks you in the face that you are in harms way and you do whatever the hell you have to do to make it home and protect your brothers fighting beside you.

:soberbushanswer:

Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:24 pm to
Josh sounds like a psycho. He said he misses killing. Eh...
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:24 pm to
Ww2 vets seem proud as hell of what they did. Everything since is a mixed bag.


I’ve talked to some people who would go back and kill tomorrow if given the chance, and some that never really came back from it
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:25 pm to
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I used to work with a Korea vet who opened up and told me some stuff he said he had never told anyone else. I dont know why he picked me. I didnt even know him that well.

Worked with a guy that did a couple tours in Vietnam. We got snowed out for work one day so a group of us went to the bar. Dude got drunk and was telling us how he smashed some VC's windpipe in with the butt of his rifle. His nephew also worked with us and said he'd never heard him tell a story like that before. I guess when people get older, they feel a little more able to tell their stories.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:26 pm to
This reminds me of a sniper documentary I watched. An old man from Vietnam was on there and they asked him something to the effect of, "that's another human on the other side of those cross hairs what do you feel after you pull the trigger?" To which he respinfs, "Recoil."
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:29 pm to
Qassim was a very interesting one too..
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35376 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

This reminds me of a sniper documentary I watched. An old man from Vietnam was on there and they asked him something to the effect of, "that's another human on the other side of those cross hairs what do you feel after you pull the trigger?" To which he respinfs, "Recoil."



Carlos (Danger) Hathcock



I don’t know if that’s true or not, but seems like something he would have said
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 9:34 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:32 pm to
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every veteran ive talked to would never do this.



Yep
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68462 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:35 pm to
My paternal grandfather was a ww2 vet and his dad was in ww1. I always did wonder about their time in service

For whatever reason they never told my dad any stories otherwise I'm certain my dad would have told me and my cousin.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:35 pm to
Josh seems like the kinda guy who you meet and at first think he is pretty damn cool. Then after a while you figure out he is just really good at bullshitting.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:36 pm to
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Josh’s take is fricking hilarious



The drink a fake beer and jerk off angle was unexpected
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35376 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:37 pm to
I have/had a couple clients that were ww2 vets. Never got that any of them had an ounce of regret for killing. I could be wrong, but it was also a different time
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68462 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:47 pm to
i had a feeling he was going to say something to that extent
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55616 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:55 pm to
I don't think it would bother me at all.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:59 pm to
Is that the official millennial answer?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55616 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:02 pm to
i doubt it
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8003 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

I don’t know if it’s generational or not but some might be.

Me and my dad have talked a bunch about his experiences in Nam and mine in this generation and there are a lot of the same attitudes after it smacks you in the face that you are in harms way and you do whatever the hell you have to do to make it home and protect your brothers fighting beside you.

:soberbushanswer:




My theory is that there is some difference in purpose as well, and that will almost certainly affect the person's viewpoint.

We had a very good reason to be in Afghanistan, even if that turned into a quagmire. Iraq was a mightily stupid idea, but the people we were fighting were some fricked up evil people, at least where I was. It's pretty easy to swallow killing a group of men that cut off the head of a fourteen year old girl just because she was wearing blue jeans.

Vietnam had more than its fair share of atrocities, but it was ultimately a patriotic war for the VC and NVA. They've been fighting foreign invaders for more than a thousand years as a people. I think it could be hard to swallow killing someone in that scenario.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124193 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:34 pm to
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Josh sounds like a psycho. He said he misses killing.


What’s wrong with this? We’re made to kill. To be warriors.

Warriors made this world. They spread their seeds. They raped and murdered their way across the globe and we have them to thank for the present day.

And one day, they’ll be a lot more killing that needs to happen. So you’d better prepare to either be the predator or be the prey.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:35 pm to
My dad always said he had no idea how many VC he killed, but the one he strangled in hand to hand was enough that he never wanted me or any of my siblings to ever experience having to kill another person.
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