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re: So even if I get the vaccine I can still spread the China flu
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:38 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:38 pm to Byron Bojangles III
What if I already had the virus? That's what gets me, why aren't we doing anything for those that have already been positive to get on with their lives? WTF do I need to have restrictions?
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:40 pm to baldona
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What if I already had the virus? That's what gets me, why aren't we doing anything for those that have already been positive to get on with their lives? WTF do I need to have restrictions?
Why don't you care about people's safety?!?!
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:41 pm to L1C4
The point is that we reach here immunity without killing a couple of million people.
It will take time for enough people to get both doses and develop immunity.
It would come quicker if idiots like you didn't try to convince others to be as stupid as you.
It will take time for enough people to get both doses and develop immunity.
It would come quicker if idiots like you didn't try to convince others to be as stupid as you.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:41 pm to baldona
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That's what gets me, why aren't we doing anything for those that have already been positive to get on with their lives?
we could all get "COVID+" tattoos on our foreheads
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:41 pm to colorchangintiger
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YOU.CAN.STILL.GET.SICK.
AND.STILL.SPREAD.THE.VIRUS.
NINETY. FOUR. POINT. SEVEN. PERCENT. EFFICACY.
How is the efficacy being measured if you can still get sick and still spread the virus?
Moderna’s vaccine decreased symptomatic Covid by 94%.
Pfizer’s seemed to be 95% effective at preventing Covid after a few weeks
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:42 pm to Kimist
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The point is that we reach here immunity without killing a couple of million people.
Not this bullshite again.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:43 pm to L1C4
Shut up and do as you’re told.
We’ve got 2 weeks to flatten the curve!
We’ve got 2 weeks to flatten the curve!
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:44 pm to Kimist
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The point is that we reach here immunity without killing a couple of million people.
You can still spread the virus after receiving the vaccine, that's not what I would consider immunity.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:45 pm to brewhan davey
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So if this is true, this confirms that there is no point in getting it if you are in the majority of the population that has minimal symptoms.
How do you know if you will have minimal symptoms?
I may not be at risk for dying or being hospitalized (at least not from this), but I don't want to spend a week feeling miserable like I did for that rather interesting chest cold I had while visiting NYC in late February.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:45 pm to Kimist
quote:no, it's just that the older I get I question things more.
stupid as you.
I'm not trying to tell anyone not to get the vaccine. It's your decision.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:47 pm to L1C4
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So it works basically like the flu shot?
After reading Pfizer’s info and Moderna’s info - I have no idea how it works. They’re two different vaccines.
It looks like Pfizer’s prevents you getting the virus altogether- but after 28 days of the vaccine being in your system
Moderna’s is effective at people not getting severe symptoms - so people are still getting the virus and spreading it with this vaccine
I also found this interesting - it’s on Pfizer’s webpage:
“The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner.”
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:47 pm to Salmon
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because it reduces your viral load
and when your viral load is reduced, the chances of you spreading it decrease
and even if you spread it, the viral load will be lower, thus reduces the symptoms in the people you infected as well
I get this in theory. But where's the herd immunity come in if we still wear masks (assuming masks "work"), stay 10 feet apart and don't go to restaurants etc etc?
I guess we're acknowledging that those things don't really do much so the attenuated/vaccinated infected contagious person is still going to go out and spread the shite around. Just in smaller, less virulent loads.
This all seems very helter skelter.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:47 pm to lionward2014
I agree that once the population has been given the opportunity to receive the vaccine then it’s on them. But it will be a long time before everyone has been given the chance
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:48 pm to L1C4
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:50 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
If we did not hit herd immunity already. They are finding cases in stored blood as far back as September 2019 that have traces of covid 19 in them. My kids class was decimated by a flu-like virus November 2019. It is all just moving goal posts and lying to the public.
This has become the new climate change - yes covid-19 exists and can be deadly for certain people - no one denies that. The fact that every symptom under the sun "could be" covid, that there are probable case untested but added to the list of positive cases, that people who clearly died of something else but had a trace of covid in their body are counted as a covid death, that 99.whatever it is today % survive the virus is a fact, and we punish the healthy because of the sick (because you might have the covid and not know it), all this means that they can say whatever they want at any point and contradict what they said early and you still are a threat - it is pure control and not public health.
This has become the new climate change - yes covid-19 exists and can be deadly for certain people - no one denies that. The fact that every symptom under the sun "could be" covid, that there are probable case untested but added to the list of positive cases, that people who clearly died of something else but had a trace of covid in their body are counted as a covid death, that 99.whatever it is today % survive the virus is a fact, and we punish the healthy because of the sick (because you might have the covid and not know it), all this means that they can say whatever they want at any point and contradict what they said early and you still are a threat - it is pure control and not public health.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:52 pm to L1C4
This shite is so obvious. Keep the threat of the Covid virus going through the 2022 mid term elections so the democrats can cheat and fix the election again, thus preventing the pubs from winning the house.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:21 pm to L1C4
quote:It looks like TD is slowly realizing...or not realizing...that not every vaccine means you're 100% immune to getting the illness.
So even if I get the vaccine I can still spread the China flu
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:21 pm to jcaz
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ell, even polio, smallpox, and measles still exist
The leading cause of polio is the polio vaccine.
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