re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

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What is unknown about the fact that a fender bender shouldn't cost someone their life?

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I'm really not sure if you're trolling, really incapable of simple thought processes, or just blinded by fandom, but you know that this isn't as simple as a fender bender, and is actually a long series of events. And IF Haye's attorney's statement has any validity, this case would clearly not be as simple as you and Chad believe it up be. I know you're not this dense.

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Considering he's already been caught lying I'm not sure how much credibility he has. I'm wondering about your thought process when you can't seem to grasp the simple fact that no one needed to lose their life.

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obviously nobody did... but you have 2 scenarios.. either 1 guy was in a rage and murdered someone or the other guy gave reason to believe he was going to harm someone and got himself killed. its really that simple at this point. both made terrible decisions up to this point. smith hit and run and hayes chased them down. what happened when they got out of the vehicle will determine what happens to hayes as smith is already dead.

There’s many complexing issues at hand that I’m having trouble wrapping my head around.

Did Hayes exit vehicle with weapon on person or did he retreat to vehicle for weapon. If he retreated for weapon from vehicle, why didn’t Smith have just as much time to retrieve his piece that he already either brandished or threatened with.

If Smith made a verbal threat of “I have a gun”, why did he state this statement? Was it in a manner to de-esculate a threat? Was Smith being walked back to vehicle in a de-esculated manner or was he aggressively retrieving a weapon? Again, why was he retrieving weapon as well? Stating I have a gun could mean, leave us alone that I could protect myself. Saying the Gun word just doesn’t automatically give one authority to shoot someone. BUT its intriguing bc Mordock feels very very confident about what he’s heard that is on this supposed video.

Hayes attorney states he has a witness that saw Smith with gun. Yet he stated witness was there “seconds to minutes” after shooting. Did Smith retrieve weapon from vehicle while he was taking fire? Was Hayes already in the act of brandishing his weapon after his threat by witness account “frick ya’ll I got one too”. I mean if Smith grabbing his gun was the threat, one can assume he could have shot a self defense round back. All shots were in the backside. Maybe one side in chest.

It’s also been stated that occupants from Impala vehicle had their shirts off. Well I ask this, why would the occupants of the Impala who likely didn’t know what was going on too much be immediately enraged and taking off shirts? They didn’t know about previous incident that occurred seconds before. All they knew is that there was an accident that occurred that pushed Smith’s vehicle into their vehicle. Did they exit vehicle and witness Hayes and possibly Hayes passenger acting aggressively towards Smith’s vehicle and that in turn got the occupants of Impala vehicle to react that way. If there was a forceful accident and occupants of Hayes vehicle gets out enraged and making threats of wanting to fight and approaching the other vehicle, would that not immediate label them an aggressor in this situation?

This whole wife shot first thing is perplexing. Its been insinuated by Fuller that Hayes may have not shot Smith’s wife. Another attorney Mordock is insuating that Hayes may have not shot Mrs Smith too and it’s a good question as to who shot her. Smith’s gun wasn’t fired. Only other gun was Hayes’ passenger’s. I don’t understand what this twist could be.

And this whole fender tap, he hit, he didn’t hit. Evidence of a tap doesn’t not translate to Will knowing he hit. It could be a confusing state when slamming on brakes if a vehicle taps vehicle or not. Not saying the situation was handled correctly. All anyone can do is ONLY ASSUME intent on both parties. Both Hayes’ abrupt stop, intent or not and Will leaving intent or not. In either case, the behavior of each parties when exiting the vehicles is the only absolute critical piece of this case. The supposed video was said to have started seconds before shooting. Does it show the supposed threats Hayes was making when exiting the vehicle as stated by cell phone witness.

In many of these scenarios, I find it difficult to swallow that Hayes was not an aggressor in the situation. It was stated by Smith attorney that Mrs. Smith had thought the situation was de-esculated when turning towards vehicle upon taking on fire.

And boys, Fuller told a lie. It was repeated as factual by many of you people that Hayes called 911. Just own up to the mistake boys. Its ok, all parties assumed wrong. Fuller told a lie as he was told by a witness so his witness parties have already not portrayed absolute truths.

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Chad504boy

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Chad, what you just wrote was pretty good and fair.

I commend you

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Too many people making factual statements

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Fact: 7 shots in the back.

Hayes is prison bound.

Fire take

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It is customary to exit the vehicle and assess damage in an accident.

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Which is why Smith should have done that the first time and 99% no one gets hurt.

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It is customary to exit the vehicle and assess damage in an accident.

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Why didn't Smith do this in the beginning.

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why would the occupants of the Impala who likely didn’t know what was going on too much be immediately enraged and taking off shirts?

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Your whole post is very reasonable, but this one is funny to me for some reason because you're right, it makes no sense at all.

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had Will Smith not drank and bumped his car, all of this is avoided.

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No BAL has come back yet on Will Smith. You don't know he was impaired and few have questioned whether Shooter was impaired. We all know that alcohol can turn nice people into assholes.

And FWIW, I've rear ended someone once and caused no damage to either car. I saw the car in front of me pull forward like they were merging, I looked back to merge onto Claiborne, started to pull out and the car was still there. My vehicle had been stopped so there wasn't much speed involved.