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re: Should Louisiana legalize pot?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:24 am to AUjim
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:24 am to AUjim
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Thinking that the 'tax revenue' and less law enforcement/violent crime/etc...in Louisiana is just delusional.
Exactly.
If someone is bad at managing money a new job making a lot of money will not solve their issues.
Even Colorado hasn't become better off with their new income.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:25 am to Snipe
It is more about freedom than money. Behavoiral laws don't work and never will. Don't steal and don't harm another person.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 8:26 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:55 am to TDcline
Louisiana does not have a revenue generation problem it has a spending problem. If you give the legislature and the Governor more money they will spend more money on bullshite programs and we'll still be in the hole. Fix the spending problem.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:03 am to jdd48
That whole excerpt went to hell when you mentioned NOLA.com at the end their reporting and writers are pure trash
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:10 am to tommy2tone1999
True. We are a fiscal disaster
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:14 am to NC17
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So, When everybody decides to grow 6 plants per adult this is going to save the state how?
Massively reduce our prison population?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:20 am to TDcline
Yes absolutely! Treat and regulate it like alcohol.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:30 am to Das Jackal
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Yes absolutely! Treat and regulate it like alcohol.
Nah, the 3 tier brewer, distributor, seller model is outdated and needs to be deregulated massively.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:33 am to NC17
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So, When everybody decides to grow 6 plants per adult this is going to save the state how?
Who's actually going to put in the effort to grow and maintain their plants when you can buy a tube of cookies at the dispensary down the road?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:40 am to TDcline
Yep legalize it, regulate the sale of it, and tax it at 20%-25%.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:44 am to LSU316
quote:thats retarded
and tax it at 20%-25%.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:53 am to Duke
I think people fear that legalization and the ease of new products on the market in a new state would make it easier for kids to get ahold of edibles and such products that might not be readily available currently. Which is probably a legitimate concern. But no more than alcohol is already and parents let their 15 year old drink already so why not get high and become creative.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:56 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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thats retarded
We can negotiate but that's where I start....you wanna smoke you gotta pay.
The tax on a pack of cigarettes is $1.08 which is only a little less than what I stated. Doesn't it make sense to tax weed more than tobacco?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:00 am to LSU316
quote:why?
you wanna smoke you gotta pay.
quote:no, because there isn't a massive black market for tobacco. No one is going to buy from pot shops if there's a 25% tax.
Doesn't it make sense to tax weed more than tobacco?
I don't get why so many small-gov conservatives want to put huge taxes on everything.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:04 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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why?
Because what is the use of legalizing weed if we aren't going to use it as a major revenue source?
quote:
no, because there isn't a massive black market for tobacco. No one is going to buy from pot shops if there's a 25% tax.
The black market goes away when you legalize it right? That is what all the people for legalization are saying.
quote:
I don't get why so many small-gov conservatives want to put huge taxes on everything.
Not nearly everything.....really not really anything except for "sin" taxes....and before you ask yes I think taxes should be higher on alcohol.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:09 am to LSU316
quote:this is a problematic way of looking at liberty and government power. what's the use of keeping it illegal?
Because what is the use of legalizing weed if we aren't going to use it as a major revenue source?
quote:not when you make it very expensive with an outrageous sin tax.
The black market goes away when you legalize it right? That is what all the people for legalization are saying.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:11 am to TDcline
yes mostly because it's dumb not to. Instead of getting tax revenue on selling it, we spend money trying to stop it. It's not dangerous.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:12 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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no, because there isn't a massive black market for tobacco. No one is going to buy from pot shops if there's a 25% tax.
Eh, I'd think most would be willing to pay a bit of a premium for the convenience. Not to mention there will be a discount due to the risk being removed for selling it. 25% is pretty steep sure, but I don't think it would just drive people back to the black market.
I'm not sure what the tax rate is in CO, but the one shop I've been to in a fairly desolate part of the state was basically selling half price what you'd get on the black market in Louisiana and the quality was markedly superior.
The tax stuff is just a carrot to get those on the fence on legalization to come in fwiw.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:19 am to Duke
quote:it wasn't like that at first. also, black market prices are much lower in Colorado than Louisiana.
but the one shop I've been to in a fairly desolate part of the state was basically selling half price what you'd get on the black market in Louisiana and the quality was markedly superior.
If/when prices are far below BM prices, a 25% tax might be feasible
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