re: Should German people be ashamed of WWII

I have always been a big proponent of learn your history so you are not doomed to repeat it, but generally speaking, I was shocked at how little Nazi history/artifacts were present in Munich. I understand that the German people do not want to glorify what happened, but to outright pretend that it didn't exist is a mistake. I would almost liken it to the Confederate side of the Civil War.

The majority of the sites were demolished between the allied bombing and battle in Munich. The only real reminders that I saw were a placard depicting where the Brown House stood, which is now the NS-Dokumentationszentrum Muenchen which explains the rise and fall of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

The only other place really showing the nasty history is the Dachau Concentration Camp, which is extremely well done with the information, artifacts and documents presented.

The majority of the Nazi military artifacts are strewn across Europe in each country's war museums like the Imperial War Museum in London, Invalides in Paris, Royal Museum of Armed Forces in Brussels, and in our own WWII Museum in New Orleans. I also believe there is a very good museum in Dresden that may have some of the things that are missing in Munich.

A lot of young Germans are being taught that the concept of being proud of the place where you were born is nonsense. I heard a young German athlete on YouTube say it yesterday.

And it helps to wash away history when "discussing it" could lead to imprisonment.

Ok bro..... what about those troops who worked security around ghettos or in the camps? Following orders right?

Nazi suprematism is alive and well in the USA as evidenced by you.

As horrific as it was, I do believe in those days it was possible for ordinary Germans and members of their military to be unaware of what was happening regarding the Holocaust.
News in those days didn't travel nearly as fast as it does today.

That's probably another reason why Eisenhower made locals see the horrors with their own eyes. No denying that.

Many of the reg army believed they were simply fighting for their country, I'm sure. There have been many documentaries showing how the regular German military despised the SS, their leadership and their brutal policies.

Still, there's no denying what happened. The world can't be allowed to forget.

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Notice how they always celebrate and want to preserve other cultures (specifically 3rd world cultures) while destroying their own.

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I do, as well as the fact that they don't seem to think those other countries desperately need diversity, like every western country apparently does.

Yeah, all their bullshite is definitely a one way street.

They say the west is an enemy to gay rights but don't say shite about their pets from the middle east tossing gays off rooftops

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We move on.

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I don't think anyone should be ashamed of anything they had nothing to do with.

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This in a nutshell. Those responsible for the actions of the German people are mostly all dead by now or so old and senile they likely don't remember all the stuff that went on.

I'm sure most look at that period of their countries history and cringe at what took place, but they had nothing to do with it and share no guilt.

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What are your thoughts?

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When first seeing the topic I assumed you meant those with German ancestry. Germany today is nothing like it was in 1939. They had a dictator who only allowed his message to be heard by citizens. He also ordered the holocaust, the people didn't even know it was happening! Germany has been "laundered" by separation and being used as puppet states. So no, the German people shouldn't have any shame over something they are only tied to by land/name. However they should be ashamed for electing Merckle.

OTOH, US citizens of German ancestry were treated like shite during the buildup to WW1 (likely enhanced by the Germans dragging the US in) and during WW2 (likely lessened by the rage of an unprovoked* Pearl Harbor... hence internment camps for them.) Gen X was the first generation to not experience it. My grandparents were 100% German x2, Norwegian, and Austrian. I'm blond hair and blue eyed. I've heard the stories from them about how they were treated. Just did the math last night and figured out my great grandpa (born in 1900) was just too young to be drafted into WW1 and too old for WW2... however he had to experience the anti-German fervor during both.


*Yes, I realize we were subtly provoking them through embargoes on needed raw materials and helping the Chinese.

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Ok bro..... what about those troops who worked security around ghettos or in the camps? Following orders right?

Nazi suprematism is alive and well in the USA as evidenced by you.

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You, sir, are a moron.

Now, go back to the kid's table. The adults are talking.