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re: Scientific American: NOLA screwed, new levee system obsolete in 4 years

Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:21 am to
This is all about salt water intrusion not rising sea levels.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:24 am to
4 years to live it up

NOLA till I die, frick the haters
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:25 am to
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4 years to live it up

According to the bartender from New York we have 12 years
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:26 am to
There is no logical reason for federal tax payers to save NOLA's levee system.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:26 am to
Just in time for the new airport terminal.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:26 am to
If you follow that same rationale, we should abandon Miami, parts of NYC, and a lot of Southern California.

We’re all threatened by sea levels rising.

please use your IQ next time
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:28 am to
Well, one of those is situated at the discharge of the largest river in the county. Not really comparable.
Posted by Michael Hayes
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:29 am to
Number one problem is New Orleans was built in a horrible spot way back when.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:30 am to
quote:

After a $14-Billion Upgrade, New Orleans' Levees Are Sinking

Sea level rise and ground subsidence will render the flood barriers inadequate in as little as four years


People have been saying that for a century and having been saying that about Venice Italy for hundreds of years and about Holland for a millenium. Yet, they are all still here.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:30 am to
Harahan: The New Beach-front Destination
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:33 am to
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There is no realistic solution long term other than continually raising the levees or burying the first story of the buildings and raising the streets up a level.


False. There are many options. I spent 8 years of my life working with others on solutions. We presented the solutions. The solutions have been ignored. They are not cheap options and they are not easy options, but they are options.

The GNO area is up against an existential threat. That is not chicken little hyperbole. That is the truth.

GNO Urban Water Plan
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:37 am to
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False. There are many options. I spent 8 years of my life working with others on solutions. We presented the solutions. The solutions have been ignored. They are not cheap options and they are not easy options, but they are options.


Your options must not be in line with the US Army Corps of Engineers ideas. They control the entire thing and whatever they say goes even if it is a terrible idea. I think they like terrible ideas best because that gives them work to do later fixing it.
Posted by Duke
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:38 am to
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I spent 8 years of my life working with others on solutions. We presented the solutions. The solutions have been ignored. They are not cheap options and they are not easy options, but they are options.


Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:40 am to
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People have been saying that for a century and having been saying that about Venice Italy for hundreds of years and about Holland for a millenium. Yet, they are all still here.


St Marks Square is flooded about 2 months a year now and the Dutch are light years ahead of most everyone else in the living under sea level game.

Flooding has always been a real existential problem for Holland and they have always seen it as such and addressed it as if it was.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:42 am to
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The city has been alive and well since the 1700's. It's not going to get swallowed up in 4 years.


That's what they said in Atlantis
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106013 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:47 am to
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Number one problem is New Orleans was built in a horrible spot way back when.






It was built in the place it needed to be, and the original footprint is fine. They expanded into places they had no business building. 19th century engineers had a lot of hubris about their ability to tame nature. Their descendants have found out otherwise.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11841 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:49 am to
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It was built in the place it needed to be, and the original footprint is fine. They expanded into places they had no business building. 19th century engineers had a lot of hubris about their ability to tame nature. Their descendants have found out otherwise.


Welfare system doesn't help either or as some people call it Flood Insurance. If you take that away I am sure the problem will fix itself.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:51 am to
Pretty sure she just cited a study that said in 12 years catastrophic cc effects will be unreversable
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:55 am to
Why post sea Level rise effecting the levee in 4 years....


NOAA Sea Level

from 1993 - 2014 (21 years) NOAA says sea level rose 2.6" or less then 1/8" per year.

so in 4 years, at there listed rate, sea level will be 1/2" higher... so the levee will be obsolete because of a 1/2" rise? 96 years before it rises 1'......

it sounds like the issue is sinking levee..... not really sea level rise
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:59 am to
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it sounds like the issue is sinking levee..... not really sea level rise


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