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re: Scientific American: NOLA screwed, new levee system obsolete in 4 years

Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82324 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Maybe it is time to turn certain areas like the Lower 9th Ward back into swamps collecting runoff from the rest of the city.


:racist:
Posted by BarryMcCokner
Nola Area
Member since May 2017
277 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:48 pm to
nobody even lives in the lower 9th anymore dawg
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:49 pm to
Holland addressed their flooding subsequent to the 1953 floods and levee breaches. They secured voter approval to take an active stance on flood control which taxes all. They also took steps to reclaim the Zuider Zee / IJsselmeer creating expansion for land and farms. This state could learn a lot from Dutch engineers, not just for levees but also for alternative residential construction methods, e.g. floating houses that rise up on the poles anchoring them in place.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:17 pm to
Knew this years ago. The husband of my wife's client worked with the generators for the pumping systems at the base of the canals.

His warning - any mediocre hurricane or major rain event and everybody in the city should evacuate.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44797 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:25 pm to
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There is no logical reason for federal tax payers to save NOLA's levee system.



NOLA will end up at the bottom of the Gulf. It's a losing battle and no matter what level of hubris we come up with, the MS River and the Gulf of Mexico are gonna win.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37408 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:43 pm to
Climate change is real. The earth during the Triassic was a sauna.

The fairytale is everything is climate changes fault. Also I hope you don’t have a carbon footprint. If you do you are a hypocrite.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:54 pm to
You've built quite a strawman. Because I believe climate change is happening I am a tree hugging liberal who wants to end pollution?

Subsidence has about 5x's the effect that rising sea levels do on this situation. That doesn't mean you should ignore sea level rise.

I'm just glad they people working to fix the problem aren't as ignorant to the causes of the problem as you seem to be.

Who gives a shite what is causing the climate change, staying belligerently ignorant of it is killing solving the problems caused by it.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55341 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:02 pm to
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If you follow that same rationale, we should abandon Miami, parts of NYC, and a lot of Southern California.

those are all way more important places to our country than NOLA though. They're worth what it costs to try to save them
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:07 pm to
You’re right, let’s get rid of Nola and the surrounding areas..


We can start with that shithole chalmette. Y’all MFers have two jobs: keep the refineries from blowing up and keep the god damn ferry running on time so I can GTFO when I get out of class at night

I hate that damn ferry
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58613 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Holland addressed their flooding subsequent to the 1953 floods and levee breaches
look at the landmass holland is trying to protect.....not comparable to the US. It is also their #1 threat. Where, being a superpower, the US has other pressing issues.
quote:

This state could learn a lot from Dutch engineers
the ditch engineers don't do anything different than American engineers, except being 100% green. Don't give me that shite, I have worked with them.
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floating houses that rise up on the poles anchoring them in place.

lete ask you.... Do YOU want to live on a house that floats?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55341 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:10 pm to
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I hate that damn ferry
if I ever have to go to Algiers I'll take the long way around
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2299 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:11 pm to
Perhaps, if we stopped spending hundreds of billions of dollars keeping the Mississippi River in it's easternmost channel ever, and instead allowed it to behave like a real delta instead of dropping river sediment off the continental shelf, we could start having a real solution to the salt water intrusion and land loss problem.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:11 pm to
Seriously??

At this point I’d rather just try swimming across.. it’s so unreliable
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

There is no logical reason for federal tax payers to save NOLA's levee system.


You want to save the port of New Orleans and the infrastructure to support this port that almost everything between the Rockies and Appalachian is shipped through
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58613 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:12 pm to
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those are all way more important places to our country than NOLA though
are they? To they control the main artery that runs up the center of the US. Do people not understand that if we don't dressed the lower Mississippi it will silt in and not be navigable?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:13 pm to
Bienville fricked us all when he didn't move to St Gabriel like he was supposed to.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30182 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:17 pm to
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They need to hire someone from the Netherlands to get the city straight.


Been done. New Orleans has hired them three times. Dutch Dialogues 1, Dutch Dialogues II, and the GNO UWP. I guess they've only technically hired them twice as DDI was federally coordinated through Sen. Landrieu and they volunteered to come over here and help out on that one.

The Dutch take a no-nonsense approach to flood control. They do what's best for the whole, they don't care about the individual, and they don't work on term limits. Deltaworks is a 100 year plan. That's mind-boggling to an American. We went out to 50 years in some of our work, but had to cut that back in the final versions because it was not a plan we could have politicians buy in to.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76771 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:18 pm to
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
Sshhhhhhhhh

It’s it’s those evil oil companies and greedy businessmen’s fault
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21806 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
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