re: Schools and teachers are a Joke

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I demand A's with some B's mixed in occasionally. I demand this because I KNOW THEY CAN

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I never had to study and was only slowed down by kids who didn't get it.

What I've found in my professional career is that people who naturally can do are inundated with people who "worked" for a degree and consider themselves equal as far as ability and their way of seeing things.

In reality, those people epitomize the Peter Principal, and cause an array of prolonged inefficiencies because you have to have systems that simple people can follow with compliance checks to catch "mistakes".

Think of it this way, everyone wants their kid to be a starter, but many should have never made the team. Mostly because their parents want them to play a sport that doesn't naturally suit them. Let them play tennis or golf instead of basketball, don't get them a basketball tutor. Don't force them to make 5 free throws in a row if they want to eat dinner that night.

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Just this week, my kid had math homework which involved "line plots". I'm college educated and pretty good at math and I had never heard that term. Kid was struggling with it and didn't understand it.

I googled "common core math line plots". I found a 6 minute video that explained it. Was just never something we did in school, but it made a lot of sense. I then turned to my child and explained it to her, and after a few tries, she started to understand it.

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I can promise you i spend more time at the table doing homework and studying than you. But, give me your address and i'll ship you a parental ribbon for bragging about teaching your kid something in math.

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then why are you complaining about the teachers?

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There is never a discussion about them doing more or anything different for your kid for them to take on any sort of responsibility for a kid's failures. It's 100% always the parents are the failures and the teachers are off the hook completely. There should be a shared fault system.

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There is never a discussion about them doing more or anything different for your kid for them to take on any sort of responsibility for a kid's failures. It's 100% always the parents are the failures and the teachers are off the hook completely. There should be a shared fault system.

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Still waiting for a response to when I asked you WHAT exactly you want to see different.

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There is never a discussion about them doing more or anything different for your kid for them to take on any sort of responsibility for a kid's failures. It's 100% always the parents are the failures and the teachers are off the hook completely. There should be a shared fault system.

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This is 100% BS. My child's failures are on me and my wife. It's our job to raise our children and make sure they get a good education. If they are struggling and need extra help outside the classroom then I need to make it happen. The teacher should be held responsible for the growth or lack of growth of their class as a whole over a period of time. If your child gets a bad teacher (this will happen" just make sure you are teaching them what they need to know on that subject at home. I could teach one average child high school world history in about 2 months what it takes me to teach 100 kids a full year.

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Parents are far more important to a childs education than teachers.

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This is exactly right.

Teachers in 2019 are babysitters. It's the parents' job to track their kid's progress and fill in the gaps.

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Do you know anything about the teaching profession?

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yep. i know parents have to do their jobs.

Have you tried to have this conversation? You expect the teacher to call you and say that she wants to have a conference on what MORE she can do, besides all the things she is most likely already doing. That isn't going to happen. If you want to have that conversation then you must initiate it. I have a feeling they tell you all the things they are doing, you don't listen and all you take from the conversation are the things they are saying you can do at home. They are basically telling you that your kid isn't grasping it despite all their efforts and you need to try even more intervention at home. If you hate the teachers and school so much then why are you paying for it?

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i know parents have to do their jobs.

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Since this is a private school we are talking about...

The pastor at our church constantly tell us that when it comes to religious education, the parents have the greatest responsibility for teaching our kids. School is no different.

YOU - not the teacher, not the principal, not "the village", has the primary responsibility for your child's education. The teacher is there to take some of that challenge on for you... but ultimately the success or failure of your child, academically, falls on the parent.

I'm curious - have you had a conference with your child's teacher to discuss the challenges your child has? Hell, have you called or messaged them?

If you brought your kid to the dentist with a mouthful of cavities and then paid the dentist to fix all the cavities would he not then recommend things that you need to do to ensure that the child doesn't continue to destroy his/her teeth? If your answer to this is Yes, then whose fault is it that if you decide to ignore the dentist's recommendations the kids teeth continue to rot?
Is it the dentist's fault or the parent's?

To further delve into this scenario, would you try to tell the dentist what he/she needs to do to improve his practice so that the kids teeth do not rot despite no follow up between visits?

What you are saying is that you know what techniques, management style, and other duties the teacher should be doing to improve the learning for your child. When I was a classroom teacher, I constantly searched for innovative and effective ways to enhance student understanding and grasp of my content, but without practice and study they were never going to be able to master the content at a high level.