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Russia launches world's largest submarine

Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:17 am
This is perhaps one of the biggest threats the US Navy now faces today. This ship has the capability to tip the battle for the seas in Russia's favor



Designed to support a variety of military missions, including the Poseidon long-range strategic nuclear torpedo, the sub is far larger than anything operated by any other naval force, including the U.S. Navy. The six hundred foot long submarine displaces more water than a World War I battleship and can dive to a depth of 1,700 feet.

The submarine was launched today, April 23rd, at the Sevmash shipyards in Russia, with Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly watching via satellite.

Officially known as Project-09852, the submarine was originally an Oscar II-class cruise missile submarine that the Russian government ran of funds to complete. The submarine hull sat unfinished until Moscow decided to complete it as a special mission submarine.

The hull was lengthened to approximately 184 meters (604 feet) and the ship’s displacement ballooned to 30,000 tons submerged--more than fifty percent greater than the U.S. Navy’s Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines. The result of an unfinished hull the Belgorod is a one-off, and there will not be another one like it.



One major mission Sutton believes Belgorod is meant for is the covert placement of the Harmony submarine detection network. A nuclear-powered underwater detection system, Harmony could help alert Russian forces of enemy submarines transiting through key areas. The key to their working however is their covert deployment, something Belgorod was practically built to do. Another mission is conducting covert operations with the Losharik midget submarines. The 230 foot long, nuclear-powered Losharik is equipped with robotic arms and capable of diving to 1,000 meters (3,280 feet). The massive submarine will also be able to carry the Harpsichord-2P-PM autonomous underwater vehicle, transporting it to an operating area and then use its sonar to map the ocean floor or find man-made objects.

Although built to conduct underwater espionage, by far the most sinister mission for Belgorod is as launch vehicle for the Poseidon nuclear torpedo system. Poseidon is a very large torpedo, 65 feet long and 6.5 feet in diameter, with a range of thousands of miles and a top speed of 60 knots. Poseidon is believed to carry a 2 megaton thermonuclear warhead and is designed to go around U.S. missile defenses to strike coastal targets, including ports and cities. According to HI Sutton Belgorod will carry up to six Poseidon torpedoes.

Posted by patnuh
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:19 am to
Does it have caterpillar drive?
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:19 am to
Two pings pleash
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:20 am to
how does the Virginia Class stack up?
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:27 am to
We have 11 aircraft carriers and about another 10 or so mini-carriers. That's over 20. The rest of the world combined has 9.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:28 am to
It's not the size, it's how you use it.
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:28 am to
Does it stack up well versus one of our old civil war battle ships at the bottom of the ocean?
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:30 am to
I don't have knowledge worth a shite but I would imagine size doesn't mean much in this realm
Posted by Bawcephus
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:31 am to
Not sure this is an area where "bigger is better".

Posted by Cold Drink
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:32 am to
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It will carry a deep-diving midget submarine
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:33 am to
Overcompensating
Posted by S
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:36 am to
When shite goes down who gets dibs on the escape capsule?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:37 am to
quote:

We have 11 aircraft carriers and about another 10 or so mini-carriers. That's over 20. The rest of the world combined has 9.



This ship has the capability to destroy the carriers, build/maintain an autonomous undersea sonar network, and deploy undersea drones to our shores. It can also tap/disrupt underwater communications

Carriers are powerful but are also the most highly sought after targets. We have antimissile technology but I do not know our antitorpedo capabilities.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:39 am to
quote:

I don't have knowledge worth a shite but I would imagine size doesn't mean much in this realm



You're right to an extent. The size while impressive also makes it ungainly. What's impressive are its capabilities as stated in the OP

This is the most versatile clandestine warship I've ever read about.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:42 am to
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We have antimissile technology but I do not know our antitorpedo capabilities.

may sound like homerism but I feel confident that if the Russkies, and they don't take a dump without a plan, son, have something like this, we're probably a gen or so ahead of that
Posted by ExtraGravy
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Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:46 am to
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This ship has the capability to tip the battle for the seas in Russia's favor 


No, just no.
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:46 am to
quote:

This ship has the capability to destroy the carriers, build/maintain an autonomous undersea sonar network, and deploy undersea drones to our shores. It can also tap/disrupt underwater communications 

Carriers are powerful but are also the most highly sought after targets. We have antimissile technology but I do not know our antitorpedo capabilities. 


A sub is a good weapon, however, with our current high tech fighter jets, no ship or missile is coming close to our carriers. If they start something we can retaliate on their cities immediately.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:48 am
Posted by bubblehead26
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:48 am to
I don't see this whole "submarine in the belly" thing working out very well. Operating 2 submerged vessels that close is hard enough already in normal water, put it in cold water and I think you'll see an accident sooner or later.

Nuclear torpedo is dumb. Just look at underwater explosions in Bikini Atoll and imagine what will happen to this sub if it is within 100 miles or so when the torpedo explodes.

The scariest part is the sonar. From what I remember it is as advanced as US sonar and had us running away for quite a while. Only advantage we have is Russians are horrible at hiding whether via satellite or acoustics.

Tigeralum, surprised you didn't provide your thoughts at the bottom
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