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re: Report:Multiple people walked through construction site before Arbery's death, no theft

Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:50 pm to
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That’ll happen when your local DA office and fellow law enforcement actively try to sweep it under the rug and get caught.

Especially with the death on video.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87749 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:50 pm to
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One of the most adamant claimed he used to be a general contractor and acted like this never happened. Even repeatedly accusing people of lying when they said they did.



Yeah it's pretty weird. I've done this my entire life (I did it with my dad when we were kids). And I'm from an urban/suburban background, so it's not like we lived in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:57 pm to
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How are the gunmen connected to the owner of the construction property?


They aren't.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:02 pm to
How many of those people attacked a man holding a shotgun? Only one probably.
Posted by Blind Zebras
We comin
Member since Aug 2016
1044 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:03 pm to
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CNN


This is what makes the story credible
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43088 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:04 pm to
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But admittedly, there is some evidence that he does jog (witness account) and regardless, there certainly isn't enough to deem the headline "lying"


It shouldn’t be hard for authorities to determine if he was a regular jogger and where he jogged although I don’t know how much it means legally.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41936 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:05 pm to
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How many of those people defended themselves from a man holding a shotgun?



FIFY
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:07 pm to
Whether he was stealing or not seems pretty irrelevant to me. You can't chase someone down and shoot them because you saw them take your bike.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:07 pm to
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How many of those people attacked a man holding a shotgun? Only one probably.

How many people have two non-LEO’s set up a roadblock with guns drawn for a person, with their friend trailing that person as well?

Who knows how anyone will respond, but it’s called FIGHT or flight for a reason, and they were doing their best to prevent the FLIGHT response.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38394 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:08 pm to
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How many of those people attacked a man holding a shotgun? Only one probably.




the blowhard evangelical christian making excuses for a murder, shocking!
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7545 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:08 pm to
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They aren't.


I guess I don't know the full story. Aren't the gunmen claiming they had video of this guy trespassing? How would they know this if they have no connection the the property.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23646 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:09 pm to
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Whether he was stealing or not seems pretty irrelevant to me. You can't chase someone down and shoot them because you saw them take your bike.

But you should be able to! A thief's life is worth less than the can of Skoal I keep in my back pocket. We should deport anyone convicted of a felony. No second chances.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:09 pm to
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Whether he was stealing or not seems pretty irrelevant to me. You can't chase someone down and shoot them because you saw them take your bike.


True. I don't think they were out to kill him but they did and we will see how this plays out.

Best thing they could've done is call the police if they thought something was amiss.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43088 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:12 pm to
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I guess I don't know the full story. Aren't the gunmen claiming they had video of this guy trespassing? How would they know this if they have no connection the the property.


They wouldn’t.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40185 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:13 pm to
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I couldn't believe there were a significant number of posters here who had no idea (and argued about it for several pages) that randos walking through houses under construction is a common occurrence.
In some neighborhoods, it's virtually Karen's fulltime job.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50967 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:15 pm to
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I don't agree with anything they did but I like you only saw a 10 sec clip.


I also read the statement the shooters gave police that day and saw how the video contradicts some of it.

quote:

McMichael stated he and Travis got in the truck and drove down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive. McMichael stated when they arrived at the intersection of Satilla Drive and Holmes Drive, they saw the unidentified male running down Burford drive. McMichael then stated Travis drive down Burford and attempted to cut off the male. McMichael stated the unidentified male turned around and began running back the direction from which he came and "Roddy" attempted to block him which was unsuccessful. McMichael stated he then jumped into the bed of the truck and he and Travis continued to Holmes in an attempt to intercept him.

McMichael stated they saw the unidentified male and shouted "stop, stop, we want to talk to you". McMichael stated they pulled up beside the male and shouted stop again at which time Travis exited the truck with the shotgun. McMichael stated the unidentified male began to violently attack Travis and the two men started fighting over the shotgun at which point Travis fired a shot and then a second later there was a second shot. McMichael stated the male fell face down on the pavement with his hand under his body. McMichael stated he rolled the man over to see if the male had a weapon.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87749 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:16 pm to
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It shouldn’t be hard for authorities to determine if he was a regular jogger and where he jogged although I don’t know how much it means legally.



IMO it doesn't mean a lot legally, because this is a story of vigilante idiots and whether they had good reason for their suspicion probably doesn't matter much considering how this saga ended. It does matter for the public narrative, because the public should know what the truth is given that the media/others will lecture us on this being a brazen racial killing.

I agree that the authorities should have a good idea on the topic.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19928 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:17 pm to
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I also read the statement the shooters gave police that day and saw how the video contradicts some of it.


I think they were coached on what to say in the police report never thinking the video would see the light of day
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:19 pm to
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How many of those people attacked a man holding a shotgun? Only one probably.


How many of them were chased down and had to confront a roadblock of armed hillbillies?
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
1175 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:23 pm to
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Best thing they could've done is call the police if they thought something was amiss.


The elder McMichael was on the phone with a 911 operator during the shooting

He was also on the phone with 911 as he spotted someone in the house on Feb 11th

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