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Report: Raising minimum wage nationwide to $15 would cost nearly 1.5 million jobs

Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:54 pm
And primarily in areas with low costs of living, where the difference between current wages and the new government-mandated wages are highest. Smaller businesses in places like Louisiana or Oklahoma would have to pay wages more appropriate in places like Chicago or Seattle.

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If enacted at the end of March 2021, the Raise the Wage Act of 2021 (S. 53, as introduced on January 26, 2021) would raise the federal minimum wage, in annual increments, to $15 per hour by June 2025 and then adjust it to increase at the same rate as median hourly wages. In this report, the Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill’s effects on the federal budget.

The cumulative budget deficit over the 2021–2031 period would increase by $54 billion.

Increases in annual deficits would be smaller before 2025, as the minimum-wage increases were being phased in, than in later years.

Higher prices for goods and services—stemming from the higher wages of workers paid at or near the minimum wage, such as those providing long-term health care—would contribute to increases in federal spending.

Changes in employment and in the distribution of income would increase spending for some programs (such as unemployment compensation), reduce spending for others (such as nutrition programs), and boost federal revenues (on net).



Could small businesses in Baton Rouge or Memphis pay Seattle level wages and still stay open?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76323 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:55 pm to
no way !

pay 10 people $8hr or pay 5 people $15hr? hmmm
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
9178 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70529 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:56 pm to
Seems low
Posted by KirbySmartass
Member since Jul 2020
3139 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:56 pm to
And those dumb asses will push it through any way.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:57 pm to
This has been pushed by coastal progressives in an effort to temporarily eliminate the disadvantage their states have in costs of living.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74205 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:57 pm to
A bunch of Union goons are going to come into this thread and argue

“But but but the report also shows 900,000 Americans will be lifted from poverty!!!”

I cannot stand Union culture.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:57 pm to
We have to do what's morally right, not what makes sense. If millions of people are put out of work, it's the price we have to pay for justice.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41099 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:57 pm to
Hell, I think that report is laughably wrong. They are estimating that there are 17M people that would have their wages increase under this, and that only 1.4M of them would lose their jobs? Going to go ahead and call garbage on that.

This will hurt the big corporations, but they will survive and just mechanize a lot of their tasks. The small businesses are the ones that this will really hurt. That is something they aren't even factoring into their report.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:58 pm to
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“But but but the report also shows 900,000 Americans will be lifted from poverty!!!”



So 900,000 would be "lifted" from poverity.....but 1.5 million more will go into poverty.

Yes. Let's do this right now. It makes no fricking sense but some a-hole on cable TV told me that it's the morally right thing to do, even if it makes the country's manufacturing base even less competitive with places like China or Mexico.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45369 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:58 pm to
Maybe those jobs aren't needed?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76323 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:59 pm to
get paid double to look at me like i'm interrupting your day by trying to purchase something. makes sense
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8447 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
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get paid double to look at me like i'm interrupting your day by trying to purchase something. makes sense



Why would you put up with that kind of employee?

For $15/hour, I'd hire the retired teacher that's trying to supplement her pension over the air head that dropped out in 9th grade.

The issue here is that the good employee is going to eventually want $16 or $17 an hour to stay. So everyone is right back where they started except the consumer and the business owner, who just got totally fricked.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25476 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
It would probably trigger a recession the likes of which have never been seen before. Within 6 months, a McDonald's will be able to run efficiently with half the employees as they implement their McBurger flipping machines.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
Yeah how does Amazon do it?

1200 jobs coming to BR paying $15.00 and benefits
The market here will be 15.00 an hour and people will have to match it.

I'm against paying 16 year old kids this but what should be the tier be?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41099 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
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what should be the tier be?



What the market dictates.

$15/hr in small town alabama, louisiana, or mississippi is an absurd pipe dream for minimum wage. Once size fits all policy is the epitome of idiocy. New York and Cali, it is a more "reasonable" number, but is still ridiculous. Don't think it has gone particularly well anywhere that has tried to implement it.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:05 pm to
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Raising minimum wage nationwide to $15 would cost nearly 1.5 million jobs


Good, all the broke asses who are crying can get a $15 raise, and then lose their job to robots making burgers. Then when their unemployed arse goes to mcdonalds to get a burger they can cry about it being $5 instead of $1. I honestly cant wait for this to blow up
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:05 pm to
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would cost nearly 1.5 million jobs
I hear that high school kids are the only ones that should be making minimum wage so it's not that big a deal.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:06 pm to
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but what should be the tier be?


Whatever the market decides.

People getting raises from government dictating the wage is a terrible way to go through life. Improve your skills and your value improves.
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