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re: Repeat topic, but George Floyd? Really?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:35 am to Rouge
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:35 am to Rouge
The confusing thing is I'm told systemic racism includes much harsher jail time for black criminals. Shouldn't he have still been in jail serving his life sentence for his first drug arrest?
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:41 am to Rouge
Again, this is a situation where I feel like the OT is forcing me to pick a side.
Chauvin murdered him while he was handcuffed defenseless on the ground. Surrounded by 3 other police officers. He kneeled on his neck for 9 minutes. That’s judge, jury, and executioner for using a counterfeit $20. Not acceptable - ever regardless of race, age, gender, etc.
George Floyd was a POS. Shouldn’t have gotten him killed, but to say this man is a saint is nonsense. He was high as the time on fentanyl. And this is a man who put a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach while his buddies robber her blind. He’s a POS, but he’s a POS that should be behind bars, not under 6 feet of dirt.
Both men are POS. Both should still be alive today tho.
Chauvin murdered him while he was handcuffed defenseless on the ground. Surrounded by 3 other police officers. He kneeled on his neck for 9 minutes. That’s judge, jury, and executioner for using a counterfeit $20. Not acceptable - ever regardless of race, age, gender, etc.
George Floyd was a POS. Shouldn’t have gotten him killed, but to say this man is a saint is nonsense. He was high as the time on fentanyl. And this is a man who put a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach while his buddies robber her blind. He’s a POS, but he’s a POS that should be behind bars, not under 6 feet of dirt.
Both men are POS. Both should still be alive today tho.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:42 am to The Spleen
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So people can't rehabilitate themselves and become better people? Do you have any more recent records?
Wasn’t he arrested a couple weeks ago?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:44 am to East Coast Band
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He was a piece of shite for sure, but there are others that even white people consider "heroes" that have a checkered past.
My favorite part of his checkered past was when he stuck a gun into a pregnant woman's stomach. This guy was definitely the mascot you want when you're turning the country inside out.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:44 am to The Spleen
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Don't believe he's had any arrests since he moved to MN in 2014.
This can only mean that cops in the South investigate criminal acts better.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:50 am to Rouge
Looks like he had a good 2-3 year stretch around 2000 where he was keeping his nose clean.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:52 am to Rouge
I mean, do we have to wait for a cop to murder a little old lady to push for police reform? shite is long overdue, we waste so much money and see terrible results.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:52 am to boxcarbarney
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My favorite part of his checkered past was when he stuck a gun into a pregnant woman's stomach. This guy was definitely the mascot you want when you're turning the country inside out.
Just look to the NFL. Plenty of fans of Michael Vick, Ray Lewis, etc. that have a much more violent past than does Floyd and white people love these guys.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:53 am to Rouge
Yeah they’re fricking insane.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:56 am to FieldMink
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This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:57 am to bigblake
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The philandro Castile and breanna Taylor cases are terrible and would be much better to rally behind than many of the others.
Ya, that is true - especially Breanna Taylor - but the power of a video like we have with George Floyd is really needed to rally a large group of people. That shite was brutal to watch, i couldn't finish it.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 8:58 am
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:12 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I mean, do we have to wait for a cop to murder a little old lady to push for police reform?
No, but I'd save the ceremonious cross-country memorial tour for someone with less than a handful of felonies on his/her record.
I'm starting to get the feeling that the choice of unsavory characters as the face of certain movements is very intentional. There would be no controversy if a little old lady was unjustly killed by a police officer. Even in this case, most people absolutely agree Floyd died unjustly. It's why these protests and policy initiatives have gone so far off the rails. Police reform may be the goal (I don't think it is for those who organize these things), but mostly I think they want turmoil and division.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:23 am to The Spleen
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So people can't rehabilitate themselves and become better people?
We all need to be like Craig
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:30 am to GRTiger
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The confusing thing is I'm told systemic racism includes much harsher jail time for black criminals. Shouldn't he have still been in jail serving his life sentence for his first drug arrest?
He got five years for aggravated armed robbery with a deadly weapon. This was after multiple felony convictions.
We will never hear about lax judges during this time, though.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:31 am to FieldMink
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Philando Castile, Sandra Bland, and Breanna Taylor
Philando and Breanna Taylor are both fricked up situations. The cop escaped charges in Philandos case, unfortunately. There have still been no arrests made with Breanna's case.
Why do people always bring up Sandra Bland, though? She got arrested, and if I remember correctly the officer who arrested her was really rough and I think he even got fired for that. But she committed suicide in her cell a few days later. Who exactly are you supposed to charge for a crime when someone else commits suicide.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:32 am to Sneaky__Sally
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do we have to wait for a cop to murder a little old lady to push for police reform?
This is not about police reform anymore
We all know it
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:07 am to Sneaky__Sally
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and see terrible results.
Actually, you see fantastic results. Crime has largely been dropping for the last 30 years. The roadways are relatively safe. You and your family have a very good chance of never being the victims of a serious crime.
Are these things due solely to the work of police in America? No, of course not. It would be foolish to say so. But it would be equally foolish to say police have no effect on crime and civil order in our society. But some edgy tryhards on here would have you believe these things have occured in spite of police efforts.
I laugh at the statements that the average cop is uneducated. I would be willing to wager my department is better educated than the average American. It helps that my agency gives pay bonuses for education credits, offers tuition reimbursement and gives points on promotional processes for college and post-grad degrees. I understand my agency may be an outlier in that regard.
Also, I agree that some things need to be looked at such as asset forfeiture and drug laws. I am jealous of my constitutional rights. I didn't go into law enforcement to violate others. But, the criticism of police in these areas is largely misplaced. Righteous indignation should be directed at your state legislature. They're the ones who make the laws that we are stuck with enforcing.
If it was up to me, I'd legalize all drugs - with the proviso that not one cent of my taxes go to your rehabilitation. Just don't operate a motor vehicle or heavy machinery, sell it to minors or do it around schools. But, I don't make the rules.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:10 am to patnuh
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Looks like he had a good 2-3 year stretch around 2000 where he was keeping his nose clean
Must have been in prison.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:10 am to Rouge
It is for some people and it isn't for some
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 10:11 am
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:17 am to SoFla Tideroller
To start, you cant tell me we have gotten a good return on investment in the war on drugs. So simply because of that one aspect - and with how expensive and widespread our prison system is - i conclude terrible results relative to the cost.
Major police / criminal justice reform is needed. Start with legal weed and pardoning low level pot offenders. Reduce adminstrative bloat, militarization, increase officer pay, etc.
I just want to see common sense reforms.
Major police / criminal justice reform is needed. Start with legal weed and pardoning low level pot offenders. Reduce adminstrative bloat, militarization, increase officer pay, etc.
I just want to see common sense reforms.
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