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re: Remember that video of the doctors that got censored?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:13 pm to Grasshopper
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:13 pm to Grasshopper
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believed in demon sex snd aliens caused infertility.
Trust the science.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:15 pm to sgallo3
quote:The Yahoo article references two other studies which also support its usage.
If HCQ really couldve saved lives then people deserve to go to jail. This 200% number is complete bs tho as we have larger, clinical trials that do not collaborate it
quote:The degree to which “science” was hijacked by politicians and journalists, and the fact that progressives fully supported the hijacking while having zero knowledge as to how “science” works, has resulted is an absolute destruction of the research sciences and the complete dissolution of public trust in the research sciences.
Several other studies released since last year have come to the same conclusion that hydroxychloroquine can be effective in certain situations against the coronavirus, including a December study from the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents showing 84% fewer hospitalizations among patients treated with the drug.
Another study, conducted by Hackensack Meridian Health, found encouraging results in patients with mild symptoms who were treated with the drug.
The actions, IMO, were criminal.
If it is determined that HCQ and AZM have a positive impact on survival rates, a class action suit should be filed against a multitude of entities, from journalists to health organizations to social media companies.
Nothing would come of that though.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:20 pm to triceratops
FBI raided the primary female MD’s house as well. Hmmmm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:25 pm to triceratops
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Seems kind of important that the entire media apparatus worked in synch to discredit something this important to public health
It was criminal. People were denied treatment that likely would have saved their lives. Doctors who went along with this should be ashamed (at the very least)
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:31 pm to triceratops
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Is this worth a stickie? Seems kind of important that the entire media apparatus worked in synch to discredit something this important to public health
It's not the only thing they lied about for an agenda. If any of these cheap, safe, established medicines are shown to be effective,
Emergency Use Authorization for their vaccines couldn't be justified.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:34 pm to triceratops
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could increase the coronavirus survival rate by as much as nearly 200% if distributed at higher doses to ventilated patients with a severe version of the illness.
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World Health Organization warned against using the drug to prevent the coronavirus, citing data suggesting it was ineffective.
President Trump touted it as a possible cure and said he took it for 2 weeks after his valet caught the virus.
This study does not support the claims that the drug can keep you from getting covid or will help mild cases. But if you find yourself on a vent, ask for it by name.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:51 pm to Twenty 49
Can anybody find a post where someone says..
"Damn, didn't realize that, I was wrong."
Seems to be..."who conducted the study", "How big was the sample size", "I don't want to admit that I'm wrong so I'll find some minor point to deflect to maintain the belief that I'm correct!"
"Damn, didn't realize that, I was wrong."
Seems to be..."who conducted the study", "How big was the sample size", "I don't want to admit that I'm wrong so I'll find some minor point to deflect to maintain the belief that I'm correct!"
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:53 pm to Kujo
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Seems to be..."who conducted the study", "How big was the sample size", "I don't want to admit that I'm wrong so I'll find some minor point to deflect to maintain the belief that I'm correct!"
Nope, all those questions involve logic and common sense. Instead, since the media is hyper politicized it’s, “Who’s paying them to say this?!?!” “What side of the political aisle are they??”
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:54 pm to triceratops
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:55 pm to triceratops
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CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT, Facebook, twitter
bunch of Orwellian fricks
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:56 pm to Kujo
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Can anybody find a post where someone says..
"Damn, didn't realize that, I was wrong."
That's something you have to admire about Trump. He's quick to admit it and apologize when he is wrong. These fellows should be more like him.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:56 pm to sgallo3
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also thats an observational study with very small sample size and the study hasn't been peer reviewed.
If HCQ really couldve saved lives then people deserve to go to jail. This 200% number is complete bs tho as we have larger, clinical trials that do not collaborate it
Yet they all ran with some French (I believe) study (not peer reviewed) that said HCQ increased chance of death. All while suppressing the video in the OP. It's all insanity.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:00 pm to Kujo
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Seems to be..."who conducted the study", "How big was the sample size", "I don't want to admit that I'm wrong so I'll find some minor point to deflect to maintain the belief that I'm correct!"
So if I post a study that shows it doesn't help you will say "Damn, didn't realize that, I was wrong."?
I'll even post a randomized double-blind clinical trial rather than an observation from one hospital with a small sample size. LINK
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:06 pm to Kujo
Who conducted the survey and the size of the sample seem like legitimate questions.
You gotta problem with considering these fundamental issues?
You gotta problem with considering these fundamental issues?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:07 pm to nitwit
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Who conducted the survey and the size of the sample seem like legitimate questions.
You gotta problem with considering these fundamental issues?
The problem is this type of questioning only goes in one direction.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:11 pm to nitwit
some notes from the study in the OP
they dont disclose the effects of the patients that received only HCQ or only AZM, probably because they didn't have as good of results in those cohorts.
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Obesity, as observed in many studies, was common (50.4%) in this Cohort. Only 18.1% had a normal BMI, while 31.9% was overweight. This cohort’s mean BMI = 31.4. While similar to other reports on critically-ill Covid patients, this mean BMI is substantially higher than that seen in intravenous antibiotic trials.
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As seen previously at this hospital (24), black was the most common race, unlike studies in nearby medical centers (25)(19,23,26)
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Since those with higher doses of HCQ had higher doses of AZM, we cannot solely attribute the causal effect to HCQ/AZM combination therapy. However, it is likely AZM does contribute significantly to this increase in survival rate. Since higher dose HCQ/AZM therapy improves survival by nearly 200% in this population
they dont disclose the effects of the patients that received only HCQ or only AZM, probably because they didn't have as good of results in those cohorts.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 7:13 pm
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