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re: Recent drug addiction in family

Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:40 am to
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:40 am to
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we have suspected for years
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He wants to live with us to “regroup.”
not a drug expert, but from what I've read over the years, the likelihood of that working out are slim.

Get him the help he needs, if you can. But a roof ain't it.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21155 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:40 am to
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Recent drug addiction in family


My friend, I hate to tell you but from my own experience with a close relative and the others I spoke with who told me their own stories of addiction, there's a very high chance the story does not end well.

When someone truly gets addicted, it can just leave a trail of destruction behind and even when they "get better", it's still hovering around in the area like a vulture ready to swoop back in for the kill.

If you can, see if there's a way to try to get them help, but the only way they will get truly well is to wake up and help themselves. Help where you might be able to but make sure it is at
a distance. Otherwise this cousin will bring your household grief and leave some of their path of destruction in your midst as well. Don't feel bad at all for your watchful state.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:40 am to
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He wants to live with us to “regroup.”


Nope

This is a hill worth dying on
Posted by SpanishFortTiger
Spanish Fort, Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
1662 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:40 am to
I agree that’s a great option. My wife helped raise this cousin so they have been close in the past. I agree 100% about not letting him live here. I’ll offer a hotel until he can get info a place. I just googled a few places close and found “The Shoulder”

LINK

Thanks for letting me thinking aloud.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:41 am to
Prepare to have ERRYTHING stolen.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:41 am to
He needs inpatient treatment OUT OF STATE, several states over from where he is now. He needs to loose his phone, social media, any contacts he has in his current life. He has to completely start over.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33448 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:41 am to
Having dealt with hundreds of addicts, I am a firm believer that ostracizing them will not help. It simply makes them feel unloved and abandoned, which generally makes the roots of addiction sink even deeper.

With that said, inviting one into your home is a bad idea. They will almost certainly steal from you to feed their addiction. This will cause a massive blowup that will prompt you to completely cut them off, bringing us to the situation described above.
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:42 am to
If you're even considering letting a known addict live with you BEFORE they've gone through treatment, then I'd love to be a fly on the wall during that conversation. It's one of those "Well, there's 5 different outcomes. Literally none of them end well."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:43 am to
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Edit: He wants to live with us to “regroup.” Sorry, a lot going on


Treatment, or else. "Regroup" means little has changed.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37964 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:47 am to
There’s nothing wrong with letting him live there for a brief time but you would have to set some major boundaries and it could always end in a disaster.

Best option would be to get him in a treatment center.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:47 am to
Get a bank safety deposit box and put EVERYTHING of value that can fit inside it so he absolutely cannot get at it. Talking car titles to golf balls.

When dope calls he's gonna try to answer no matter what.

Chain down and padlock what doesn't fit in the bank box. GPS tracking tab other stuff too.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
109014 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:48 am to
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I agree that’s a great option. My wife helped raise this cousin so they have been close in the past. I agree 100% about not letting him live here. I’ll offer a hotel until he can get info a place. I just googled a few places close and found “The Shoulder”



No worries. It's hard when it's someone in the family that you're close to. Because it's easy to feel guilty that you should do more, especially if you tend to be a "helper". But you and your wife have to remember your safety and your sanity comes first.

I'd help him get into treatment. Visit him and/or write when you can to show support. Help him get appropriate resources, a job, etc. when he gets out. You can support him in his recovery without sacrificing your safety.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:50 am to
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Edit: He wants to live with us to “regroup.” Sorry, a lot going on


If you value your family and sanity, don’t allow this.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17020 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:52 am to
Ask for half of his unemployment check.
Posted by freeagent
Member since Oct 2014
922 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:52 am to
Out of state, in patient rehab is the first steps here. If the cousin needs immediate lodging then perhaps a hotel. I’d HIGHLY HIGHLY advise against letting them stay with you. I’ve dealt with this with my brothers and closest friends and it never ends well in that regard. No matter how close you are, no matter what traits of loyalty or respect they’ve shown (even their whole lives) will not stop them from stealing from you. I put the likelihood of that happening at 100% and not any sort of deviation lower.

Things to prepare for:

I’ll start at the worst: death. It happens. I’ve had one friend overdose twice and able to be resuscitated, I’ve had others not so lucky. When you’re playing with this drug and it’s counterparts if they can’t find them it’s a huge risk.

Be prepared - if they’re not truly ready (and even if they are) - for a cycle of relapse. The BEST results I’ve seen is from people moving away and staying away. That in and of itself can be hard and a reason to use as well but I’ve also seen the most success from people who do that and forge ahead. If not they get into old friends and habits. Even if they’ve been clean for awhile that weekend visit can sometimes prove fatal. Not saying they can never return home but it’s going to be a battle they face every day. That shite is not going away.

I’m wary of even their use of the word “regroup” - to me that signifies they’re not ready for some life altering change that Is pretty much required for this.

Proceed with caution whatever you do, but do not let them live with you. If you’re wife raised this person then she’ll need to enact some tough love to help get them straight. If that person comes and lives with you not only will they steal from you, but their relationship with your wife may drive a wedge between yours with the potential bad scenarios that could play out and her feelings of care for this person.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:53 am to
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SpanishFortTiger

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My wife has a cousin who we have suspected for years of being on pills or something. Last weekend when Tornados were all over my wife called to check in. He was slurring his words and speaking nonsense. After lying about it being alcohol for a week he admitted he’s addicted to “roxys.” This all just happened and it’s a lot to process. I can’t figure out if we are being used or he truly needs help.

Any one go through this? I feel like I’m a piece of shite for feeling like he’s using us, but I want to protect my wife.

Edit: He wants to live with us to “regroup.” Sorry, a lot going on




TBH, I have dealt with in my family and amongst both of the men whom I gave speeches at their weddings. People I knew from the age of 5 (I'm over 40). Every episode of A&E's Intervention is the same because the only way to do it is the way they do it.

You have to have the entire family and support system this person has turn their back and stop enabling. If there is a weak link, it won't work. It just won't. They will find the weak link and it will be a soft place to land.

I've seen guys making six figures in their own business and I've seen guys with the aptitude and drive to accomplish anything on this Earth turned into the scum of the Earth. I've seen family fall out in front of their kids. They are different people. They get hollowed out inside. They tear their families, careers and livehooods apart.

One ended up in a pine box. The other is a shell of his former self. Won't even give him my address. The family Member is estranged. As are their wonderful kids from me.

But if your family and all of his friends and support system aren't willing to walk the frick away and never deal with this person again, they won't hit rock bottom and won't resolve to get better.

...and make no mistake...You can't just turn your back on them. If they see you mean business about no longer enabling, then you HAVE to fulfill your end of the bargain and get them the help they need. Professional, in-patient help.

It's the only solution. You can't pray it away. You can't help them manage it. Tough love and turning your back and then following through with it is THE ONLY thing that works.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 10:58 am
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
5027 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:54 am to
This is going to fall under the category.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65496 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:55 am to
Pay for his help but don't you dare let it be inside of your home. He may want it and certainly need it. Offer the gift. If he refuses you have your answer
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11080 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:58 am to
Has he detoxed from the opiates yet or will he be going through that while he regroups at your place?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 11:00 am to
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