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re: Raising a child in a non religious home with a very religious extended family
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i pity your children and hope you have none
that's a terrible thing to say. I think you should stop making distinctions between yourself and these "militant athiests" you're so scared of. I'm an athiest, and if you think about it ...you are an athiest also. I just take it one god further. You've already decided krishna, thor, vishnu, mohammed, zeus, and neptune don't exist. You're an athiest many times over. you've casually dismissed thousands of gods. Those you call athiests take it one small step further.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:30 pm to RoyMcavoy
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I think you should stop making distinctions between yourself and these "militant athiests" you're so scared of.
i used to be a militant atheist. i realized the bankruptcy and hypocrisy of that life and rejected it (as i rejected religion)
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I'm an athiest, and if you think about it ...you are an athiest also. I just take it one god further. You've already decided krishna, thor, vishnu, mohammed, zeus, and neptune don't exist. You're an athiest many times over. you've casually dismissed thousands of gods. Those you call athiests take it one small step further.
wait are you calling me religious??
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
your posts in this thread make it seem so.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:33 pm to RoyMcavoy
Who said it was science?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:33 pm to RoyMcavoy
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your posts in this thread make it seem so.
proving why i rejected militant atheism
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:33 pm to RoyMcavoy
quote:How does that create a problem with what he posted?
religion is not a science.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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...as long as they have people to party with
I did and I stopped believing at an extremely early age. The thing is, I dont go around throwing it in everyones face like religious people do. Half of my immediate family more than likely doesnt even know that about me. Some of my friends do, but it's just a conversation that only has to be had once.
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in louisiana, you exponentially increase the chance that they will be a social outcast that is a stone cold fact
Youre right. It's a shame it's like that and that speaks directly to the fact that religious people are extremely hypocritical.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
are you calling me a militant athiest?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:35 pm to WDE24
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How does that create a problem with what he posted?
i just tracked that convo back. damn he's ig'nant
history isn't a "science", either. it's an art
i live with a jewish kid and i have to explain lots of christian things to him, even as an adult. christianity is a big part of the social lexicon
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:36 pm to RoyMcavoy
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are you calling me a militant athiest?
after you tried to insult a valid point about christianity being a part of the social lexicon by implying it wasn't science? yes
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:36 pm to Salmon
Kids usually end up as carbon copies of their parents. So you have that going for you. But I wonder what your basic problem is with religion that would fear for your child's well being? Is there something in there that really scares you? It's a bunch of great stories, most of which have good lessons. Yeah, make sure the kid doesn't go start a war. Sure, you get to see the kid make a boat with a bunch of animals in it when the child is young, then you can take your kid when he's a teen to a flooded stream with dead cows floating by and tell him to get a whiff of that stench. Then, tell him, "Remember that happy boat they had you drew in Sunday School when you were 6?" (long pause)
"Well, that nasty crap floating around right there below you is really what that was all about, except those were dead bodies. No wonder the first thing the captain of that boat did when he landed was get drunk as hell."
You'll have all that, too. That's why they call it the book that never ends. Read it again now that you have a kid. It's calling you.
"Well, that nasty crap floating around right there below you is really what that was all about, except those were dead bodies. No wonder the first thing the captain of that boat did when he landed was get drunk as hell."
You'll have all that, too. That's why they call it the book that never ends. Read it again now that you have a kid. It's calling you.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just tracked that convo back.
ya me too. i misread his post that i replied to.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:37 pm to dnm3305
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It's a shame
naw it's life
there will always be a dominant culture. as long as that culture isn't morally bankrupt (like radical islam), children need to learn the dominant culture to become part of the dominant culture.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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fter you tried to insult a valid point about christianity being a part of the social lexicon by implying it wasn't science? yes
i misread his post, but christianity is not a science. sorry
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:40 pm to RoyMcavoy
it's not, but neither is history, culture, etc.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:41 pm to RoyMcavoy
quote:Is there a particular point you want to make about this? It seems strange you keep trying to bring the conversation to this point.
christianity is not a science. sorry
I missed any portion of this thread where someone claimed Christianity as a science or why that matters.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
correct. like i said, i misread his post.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i lived it, and saw it destroy other kids who weren't as strong as me
Gotcha. In what way were they destroyed?
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i had the advantage of having certain traits that made believers always value trying to save me. others didn't have these traits and were social lepers (who then often fostered that counter-culture bullshite)
Don't you think this is key? Seems to me like if you are an outgoing, likeable person, then it would overcome any religious difference.
Do kids really care that much about this stuff anyway? In my experience, most children and teenagers don't really take church and religion very serious at all, even the ones that ultimately take it more serious in adulthood.
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i can only imagine what it's like to try to raise an atheist kid in a rural area, esp further north
I'm sure it would be a serious issue in rural, insular enclaves.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:45 pm to Salmon
I guess religion threads are back 
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Read the op
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*This is not a religion thread, this is a parenting thread.
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