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re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:53 am to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:53 am to EarlyCuyler3
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The only group that's more brainwashed by propaganda than the millennials they hate is the boomers themselves.
The boomers are just a product of their era. When the economic pie is growing their mindset works, but in an era where the pie isn't growing as much it doesn't work at all. The greatest decade of economic growth in American history was 1950-1960, the greatest period was about 1980-2005, the boomer prime earning years when they occupied the top of corporations and their respective fields. The decade when all the boomers were born.
You can see in the charts where WW2 ends when the boomers start to be born and then the steep incline.
Every country all over the world had a big Boomer population. So you can see how globalism occurred. Lots of boomers in China, southeast Asia, Europe, etc.
As I stated in previous posts.
Large population = large amount of workers = large amount of smart people = large amount of consumption = large amount of capital available, etc. Etc.
Boomers don't understand their entire economic life was a complete anomaly compared to historical trends and they ignorantly mistake their personal economic success for personal worth and then trash younger generations who haven't been able to match their insane economic opportunity.
Tl;dr: Boomers are not special, they were born on 3rd base.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 7:55 am
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:00 am to tiggerthetooth
I have been watching Arsenals All or nothing on Amazon. The manager in some of the episodes calls out the players that frick up. And the younger generation runs to the internet and calls him a bully.
I’m an older millennial and this isn’t even close to the shite I got from my coaches.
Universities now have safe spaces and bias hotlines to call when you are offended.
Pretending our generation and gen z aren’t soft is laughable.
I’m an older millennial and this isn’t even close to the shite I got from my coaches.
Universities now have safe spaces and bias hotlines to call when you are offended.
Pretending our generation and gen z aren’t soft is laughable.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:07 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well yeah, you get paid by the hour
Not for the last 15 years. I am on salary and have the option to make $75 an hour if I do work extra.
Promotion. More money. Better benefits. More opportunities.
All from working hard when I started out.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 8:22 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:08 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Company needs to turn a profit. If there’s a profit then a percentage should go to the employees at the end of the month as a “bonus” to their base salary. They helped the business turn a profit so they should benefit some from it.
There's a risk side of this model that no entry level employee wants to or can accept.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:12 am to dgnx6
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Pretending our generation and gen z aren’t soft is laughable.
They born in the era of Boomer glory. You think they raised themselves? What cultural icons did the boomers bestow on the millennials and Gen x? Kids are going to be a product of their environments. Their DNA comes from Gen X and the boomers so there's no genetic component.
Look at Gen Z icons like Billie Eilish. She's just a modern take on Kurt Cobain nihilism. Gen Z will look more like their Gen X parents in a digital age.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:22 am to GRTiger
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I'd call that a favor or positive peer pressure, but I'm just an old millennial. I remember trying to mirror the people that seemed like the stars in the company. Now I suppose we are supposed to corral them so as not to offend the others.
Why should I "mirror the people that seemed like the stars" that offers me very little chance at advancement, have a terrible supervisor who doesn't know how to manage, and have upper-management creating useless busy work for the company?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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These kids don't really have opportunities to advanced to be passed over. Your mindset doesn't reflect that reality.
Really? So where do the new managers come from? Because management changes continue to occur. And when these employees leave for “better offers”, who is hiring them? Someone is giving them opportunities somewhere so you’re flat full of shite.
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They're doing their jobs. This comment does not apply.
So is their employer. See how that works?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:30 am to JohnnyKilroy
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For some weirdo reason people seem to HATE capitalism when the leverage balance shifts even a little bit towards labor.
A lot of so called free market capitalists are just crabs in a bucket.
Exactly this.
An employer wants employees to do more work for no additional pay? Great! He's extracting more labor for no additional cost so he's profiting!
An employee wants more benefits for the work they do? Lazy, entitled pieces of shite. They're lucky they even have a job.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:37 am to Henry Jones Jr
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And if they want the best employees who will do a good job and stay loyal, they better be prepared to pay well for that labor.
Hmmm… sounds a lot like capitalism. You want the best? You’re going to have to pay for it.
Trust me, the good ones want to. It's an incredibly fast and volatile market at the moment, so companies are reacting at varying speeds.
The fact that people are moving jobs so freely and for higher pay should make that obvious, but I understand to some the man will always be the man. Funny enough, every generation eventually becomes the man, but the man always seems to be the most resistant to the movement of the day.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:43 am to sawtooth
What’s the issue. People are paid to do a job and do it but don’t go above and beyond. So pay them more and ask them to do more.
Working harder than you get paid to is exhausting and takes away from time with your family.
Working harder than you get paid to is exhausting and takes away from time with your family.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:49 am to TexasTiger1185
always love these threads because of the combo of plant workers, corporate folks and lawyers 
different attitudes about work because lack of understanding of those industries.
Glad I got a good job and dont have to worry about half the shite in this thread
but hey I actually went into a job I wanted and knew would be fulfilling
different attitudes about work because lack of understanding of those industries.
Glad I got a good job and dont have to worry about half the shite in this thread
but hey I actually went into a job I wanted and knew would be fulfilling
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:58 am to gaetti15
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always love these threads because of the combo of plant workers, corporate folks and lawyers
different attitudes about work because lack of understanding of those industries.
And at the end of the day, we're all just a data point. It's beautiful. It's why I don't belittle anyone for their job\position in life. 99.9% of us are filling the same sized role in humanity, just a different one. If more people said yes sir to a janitor or cashier as much as they said it to people that can give them things, this whole thread would be different.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:38 am to tiggerthetooth
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Boomers are not special, they were born on 3rd base.
If where I was born was third base, then first base must have been in an igloo in Antarctica.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:40 am to JudgeHolden
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That’s what the money is for.
Money only goes so far.
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Results showed that emotional well-being leveled off at $75,000 a year; taking in a higher amount (such as $100,000) didn't make any difference in a person's happiness. The same study found that as income decreased below $75,000, people reported lower levels of happiness and higher levels of sadness and stress.Nov 24, 2021
LINK
Anecdotally, I make more money than I ever have (and way more than the $75K mentioned in the study) but I also have way less free time than I did back as a broke college student.
I'm not sure if I am happier now than I was back in my younge days. However I do know I miss the freedom and the free time I had.
Life is about tradeoffs.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:41 am to sawtooth
Everyone found out that you "can" work from home if forced to, now no one wants to go back in the office.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:42 am to tiggerthetooth
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Boomers are not special, they were born on 3rd base.
Weird, most of the people in my town were poor and credit was extremely expensive
What kind of household were you born into?
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What kind of household were you born into?
No shite.
Both my parents came from the bottom. Both had to work after school to help their parents pay rent. My mom's side of the family had MANY men fight in WW2, while my dad's side were all poor farmers.
As a Gen Xer, I was the first person on both sides of my family to go to college.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:24 am to sawtooth
I'm wondering if I fit under this term or not.
I do exactly the roles that are listed under my job description. Nothing more, nothing less. I refuse to volunteer or take on more duties without a pay increase. I don't care to become friends with everyone in the office. I don't care to kiss up to upper management.
I never skip lunch. Hell, I don't even shorten my lunch breaks. I don't work a single minute over the 40 hours I was hired to work, I don't give a damn how "slammed" we are.
I do exactly the roles that are listed under my job description. Nothing more, nothing less. I refuse to volunteer or take on more duties without a pay increase. I don't care to become friends with everyone in the office. I don't care to kiss up to upper management.
I never skip lunch. Hell, I don't even shorten my lunch breaks. I don't work a single minute over the 40 hours I was hired to work, I don't give a damn how "slammed" we are.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:24 am to josh336
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Im an older millennial, and i get it. Work/life balance. Makes no sense to go above and beyond and put in more hours than is needed.
I suppose this approach is fine, so long as you don't care about being exceptional. The path of least resistance results in a comfortable mediocrity, but will never yield excellence, renown, or high earnings.
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