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Question about men competing in women’s sports

Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:13 am
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2863 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:13 am
Are physical sporting activities that different than dragging fire hoses, wrestling with suspects on the ground, running after suspects, carrying people out of buildings, etc.?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23896 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:16 am to
I hear we are physically equal. We have same physical abilities.

You hearing something different?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21999 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:16 am to
One clear, scientific difference is that men have 40% bigger throats, which helps significantly in lung intake. Think runners & swimmers.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21683 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:43 am to
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One clear, scientific difference is that men have 40% bigger throats,

Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21744 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:49 am to
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Are physical sporting activities that different than dragging fire hoses, wrestling with suspects on the ground, running after suspects, carrying people out of buildings, etc.?


Your point is well taken. The same factors that make it appropriate to separate men and women in sports are also at play in certain types of physical jobs.

But the difference is that its not a competition in the workplace (usually). The worker can either do the minimum level necessary or they can’t.

Having said that, too often women have been encouraged and allowed to get jobs for which they really can’t perform well, even hired over more qualified men are not hired.

It gets even worse when many women take over a typically male occupation and don’t have enough men around.

It’s not just the physical aspect, it’s also the way of thinking and working together.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 9:57 am
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
1836 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:51 am to
I want LeBron James to become LaToya James and go play in WNBA.

Boy what a story it would be.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1431 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:40 am to
One size fits all thinking is not ideal in my experience, regarding both the individual people and the roles that you are reflecting upon.


This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 10:41 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59180 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:58 am to
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Are physical sporting activities that different than dragging fire hoses, wrestling with suspects on the ground, running after suspects, carrying people out of buildings, etc.?


Men generally have 50%–90% greater upper body strength with an extra ~65% more muscle mass overall. This comes from higher testosterone which is responsible for larger muscle fiber size (especially Type II/fast-twitch). Along with this, men generally have ~50–65% greater lower body strength. (that extra strength difference can change based on exercise habits)

Men are generally ~7–8% taller on average than women with higher-density and thicker bones which translates to better resistance to fractures and support for the larger muscles. We have
~10–12% higher hemoglobin as well as larger heart and lung sizes which equates to greater oxygen-carrying capacity.

Getting deeper into the biology, we have higher aerobic power (VO2 max ~10–20% higher even relative to lean mass) giving us greater explosive power (jumping, throwing, sprinting) and lower body fat percentages (~1.6x less fat than females).

This is why we succeed far more in physical endeavors than women, why there often is a need to lower physical requirements for women in jobs involving lots of physical labor and why it should absolutely be considered abusive for men to be competing in women's sports.
Posted by Missouri Waltz
Adrift off the Spanish Main
Member since Feb 2016
1468 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:03 am to
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Are physical sporting activities that different than dragging fire hoses, wrestling with suspects on the ground, running after suspects, carrying people out of buildings, etc.?

Just a few examples of how women brought men in sports on themselves. Now cry me a river.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
36947 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:09 am to
Well, the woman fire captain in California told me that if she needed to carry me out of a burning building it's my fault for getting into that situation. So, that.

ETA: Found it

This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:12 am
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13738 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:44 am to
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One clear, scientific difference is that men have 40% bigger throats,

Mikelbr says hi
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21121 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:48 am to
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One clear, scientific difference is that men have 40% bigger throats, which helps significantly in lung intake. Think runners & swimmers.

Yet there's close to 0 TD members who've gone sub flojo in the 100m and it gets significantly worse if I were to say Katie Ledecky in a 4-1500 free... yet there are hundreds, if not thousands here who think they stack up vs the best women in any sport
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4142 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:05 pm to
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Yet there's close to 0 TD members who've gone sub flojo in the 100m and it gets significantly worse if I were to say Katie Ledecky in a 4-1500 free... yet there are hundreds, if not thousands here who think they stack up vs the best women in any sport


I don' think training alone could push someone to women's sprinting records or the 2:15 women's marathon record etc., but these kinds of statements always leave out that the average Baw isn't training like Katie Ledecky either.

If they did, they would come alot closer than the average woman, it's not really debateable
Posted by Water
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
1157 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:08 pm to
It’s a proven fact that men have a different reaction time for things like video games i.e. Esports. Men react quicker and even see movement differently on the screen and typically perform much better in video game combat.

So it’s not just physical strength, it’s even down to how the eyes and optical center of the brain reacts to what men and women are seeing.

Possibly due to the traditional hunting vs gathering roles of men and women.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21121 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:26 pm to
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but these kinds of statements always leave out that the average Baw isn't training like Katie Ledecky either.

The "average baw" is 100% entirely incapable of training like ledecky, given any period of time. frick, i could spot you 3 generations and the average baw here couldn't sire a descendant capable of such.

To really hammer this flawed thinking, your average baw here was nothing like capable of being a college athlete, in any sport. October of 2021 katie hopped in and raced the uf and uga men, in the 500 free. She beat 3 men college athletes, on a top 5 ranked team... and a uga swimmer as well.

Your receipt


Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4142 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:15 pm to
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The "average baw" is 100% entirely incapable of training like ledecky


Easy sport, I think we're talking past each other. This was addressed in the first sentence.

quote:

I don' think training alone could push someone to women's sprinting records or the 2:15 women's marathon record etc.


I can easily post similar results- Annika Sorenstam beating PGA pros at the colonial (she was 96th out of 111 total), heck I could post ultramarathons where women outcompete men (and humans in general outcompete horses).

But, I could also post the 2025 Georgia Middle School Track & Field results, where the boy's 100m winner was within a half second of the women's world record.

My point was that the average man is going to do better than the average woman, given similar training. Your own example, Ledeki, is the best of the best, yet she gets beat by a bunch of sub-elite dudes?? Why? Because the men's average is higher, it takes less exceptional dudes to get the same result as a truly outstanding woman athlete


This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37512 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:32 pm to
Serena Williams against the men was illuminating. The assumption that an elite woman against the 200th ranked man would be a uncompetitive match was incorrect. Not because she won handily, because she got blown out.

If you eliminated the different categories for men and women you destroy women's sports. The difference in strength and speed is just too large.
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