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Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:17 pm to Boo Krewe
Rome fell because Italians are trashy
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:21 pm to Boo Krewe
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that why France and England progressed
England and France would take another 1000 years to reach the level of civilization that Rome held.
Rome had a number of issues that lead to its demise. A bad run of incompetent emperors, failing economy, shrinking military, and most importantly, a lack of focus on the Germanic barbarian tribes that were growing around them.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:24 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Some of the Roman inventions are on par with things that were invented in the 20th century. There was a special on the history channel about it. The most impressive were the inventions using water and thermodynamics to accomplish things they wanted done.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:24 pm to Boo Krewe
Asia and Europe were separated by miles of plains. Nomadic horse archers were all over these plains. It was a bit of a no man's land.
Europe didn't really know much about asia until the Mongol invasions and Marco Polo
Europe didn't really know much about asia until the Mongol invasions and Marco Polo
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:28 pm to cgrand
According to him England crashed hard, basically abandoning most city centers en masse, and no longer using Latin within 100 years of the Romans leaving.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:30 pm to Boo Krewe
Rome fell because they strayed from the foundational principles that made Rome great in the first place, then let itself be infested with fringe whacko leftists and sniveling liberals who were not self sufficient........ oh, you meant ANCIENT Rome.... ok.....
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:31 pm to Boo Krewe
It was death by a thousand cuts.
No one thing brought Rome down but you pile own poor leadership, a rogue army, failing birthrates, immigration without integration, loss of control of the expanses, loss of control of trade and it spirals. The Eastern Empire limped on simply because it cut so much fat off.
No one thing brought Rome down but you pile own poor leadership, a rogue army, failing birthrates, immigration without integration, loss of control of the expanses, loss of control of trade and it spirals. The Eastern Empire limped on simply because it cut so much fat off.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:31 pm to geaux88
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Rome fell because they strayed from the foundational principles that made Rome great in the first place, then let itself be infested with fringe whacko leftists and sniveling liberals who were not self sufficient.....
He asked about Ancient Rome, not the current state of the US.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:34 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
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Europe didn't really know much about asia until the Mongol invasions and Marco Polo
That's not true. There is a lot of evidence that there was a lot of trade and interaction in the West Asian Corridor from a fairly early period. There were also multiple waves of migrations from central Asia. In fact, the source of Indo-European languages is thought to be central Asia, and that migration has given us a language family that stretches from Europe all the way to India.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:34 pm to Boo Krewe
I think a better question is why were the middle ages so shitty and devoid of advancement?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:35 pm to geaux88
That's not actually TOO far off, I know you were going for sarcastic facetiousness. As the years progressed many Romans had a taste for the good life and became reluctant to "work" whatever that meant then.
They got soft, entitled, expecting to live off of the largesse of the empire. They needed slaves and non-citizens to do the "work" as well as serve in the military. Then they were, as mentioned earlier, stretched thin, and unable to contain the forces that came south to invade and plunder.
It's poorly articulated and supported, but I've read these reasons from time-to-time, online.
They got soft, entitled, expecting to live off of the largesse of the empire. They needed slaves and non-citizens to do the "work" as well as serve in the military. Then they were, as mentioned earlier, stretched thin, and unable to contain the forces that came south to invade and plunder.
It's poorly articulated and supported, but I've read these reasons from time-to-time, online.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:39 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Probably didn't help when Titus, son of Vespasian, ravaged a whore in the Holy of Holies, dismantled the Temple, and killed thousands of Jews along the way.
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:56 pm to LSUJuice
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I think a better question is why were the middle ages so shitty and devoid of advancement?
It's hard to say what was "shitty" and not, because it was plenty shitty before and after the Middle Ages, which is 476 to 1453AD.
It was shitty because life was hard, and quick. The 14th century alone... yikes.
But it's not to say that the Middle Ages was devoid of innovation or advancement. There was lots of progress. This time period kind of gets a bad rap, because (in my opinion), it's not really studied very intensely anymore in elementary through undergrad, and that leads to misunderstanding.
Think of all the innovations of the Medieval Era: the compass, mechanical mills (windmills, too!), three-field crop rotation, gunpowder, ribbed vault architecture, clocks, movable type, blast furnaces, eyeglasses, looms, glass mirrors, all kinds of stuff. Far from the dead period everyone thinks it is.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:58 pm to The Mick
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Rome fell due to mass immigration. Not kidding.
This is true. Hadrian's wall was too little, too late.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:00 pm to Ham And Glass
True, Rome and California weren't built in a day.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:08 pm to The Mick
And Julian was assassinated.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:08 pm to Boo Krewe
Like my Grandmother would have said.."Them Degos always stabbing people/each other in the back." She also thought the Asians were sneaky MF's. I would give her a present that was made in Japan and she would throw it away. 
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:17 pm to Athis
Bad leadership, the empire was too large to be properly defended, the army in the last days of the Roman Empire wasn't as skilled, disciplined or as strong as the army at the height of Rome's power and consisted mostly of German mercenaries.
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