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re: Private schools aren't better at educating kids than public schools, study says
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:47 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:47 pm to fallguy_1978
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So if you lived in BR or Nola would you be willing to start reversing that trend and put say your 16 year old daughter in Broadmoor?
No. That ship has sailed.
My point is still valid.
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:54 pm to slackster
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I've been saying this on here for a while. Public schools in LA are trash mainly because most of the good kids have been removed.
That's true for many areas of the state, but not all.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:56 pm to slackster
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No. That ship has sailed.
My point is still valid
I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just don't see it changing. Nobody is willing to fall on the sword with their own kids and I completely understand that. We pay 12k for my daughter's school. She's in middle school now so I probably wouldn't move her at this point anyway.
People that can't afford or don't want to pay for private school just move to the suburbs. My wife and I just don't like sitting in traffic for hours per day. If we had more than one we'd just move.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:57 pm to tduecen
Do you think this is true in BR or Nola?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:01 pm to High C
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That's true for many areas of the state, but not all.
Areas where there are decent to good public school options have a much lower private school enrollment - think Lake Charles, West Monroe, even St. Mary Parish. The opposite is true in Baton Rouge and New Orleans.
I truly believe private schools are the solution to a problem they likely created on their own. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:02 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:you guys are debating the wrong thing. They're saying that "better education" isn't a reason to send your kids to private school. There are obviously 1000 other reasons to do so.
wasn't disagreeing with you. I just don't see it changing. Nobody is willing to fall on the sword with their own kids and I completely understand that. We pay 12k for my daughter's school. She's in middle school now so I probably wouldn't move her at this point anyway.
People that can't afford or don't want to pay for private school just move to the suburbs. My wife and I just don't like sitting in traffic for hours per day. If we had more than one we'd just move.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:03 pm to coachLSU
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Do you think this is true in BR or Nola?
Why wouldn't it be?
If you adjust for socioeconomic factors, why would the results be much different there?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:04 pm to castorinho
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They're saying that "better education" isn't a reason to send your kids to private school. There are obviously 1000 other reasons to do so.
Yeah I think some people are misunderstanding.
Sending you kids to Newman because he'll rub elbows and network with other high net worth families has nothing to do with the educational value of the school.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:07 pm to tduecen
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Private schools aren't better at educating kids than public schools, study says
Where I live, this is probably true.
In fact, the public schools typically have higher quality high-level academic programs where I'm at.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:09 pm to tduecen
Virtually every private school kid was significantly above the rest of us from a knowledge basis in college. I don’t have empirical data, so I know this is only anecdotal.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:10 pm to slackster
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Areas where there are decent to good public school options have a much lower private school enrollment
That's my point. Without researching it, I'd guess that several LA parishes don't even have a demand for a private school.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:12 pm to GetCocky11
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Where I live, this is probably true.
In fact, the public schools typically have higher quality high-level academic programs where I'm at.
We have one magnet school and a semi public/private school that are as good as any private schools in BR. They are selective admission though. If little Jimmy is a good kid but a 2.8 student his public school option will be a poor one.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:19 pm to High C
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Are you just willfully missing the point?
Nope
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Plus, that hour of religion class every day takes away from time on actual educational subjects.
People in LA urban areas put their average kids in Catholic schools because of the discipline problems in the urban public schools.
My kids go to a private Catholic school and my wife and I had this exact conversation before sending them there. After talking to teacher friends and seeing what goes on at our public school, we found that public schools are wasting way more than an hour trying to get order with the discipline problem kids so we decided the hour of religion was not any less education time. This was further complicated because we are not Catholic but we are very happy at out school in Huntsville, AL.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:30 pm to tduecen
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when socio-demographic characteristics are factored in
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when adjusted for demographics
It sounds like they did a lot of factoring and adjusting to get the results they wanted.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:36 pm to tduecen
A. Studies don't prove anything, they seldom even suggest until repeated and the results align with each other. Something the vast majority of research fails to accomplish.
B. This LW researcher will, of course, publish a study that aligns with his politics concerning public school education.
B. This LW researcher will, of course, publish a study that aligns with his politics concerning public school education.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:39 pm to High C
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That's my point. Without researching it, I'd guess that several LA parishes don't even have a demand for a private school.
And you'd think they would if private schools were better at educating students on the whole.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:42 pm to jrodLSUke
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It sounds like they did a lot of factoring and adjusting to get the results they wanted.
I don't understand why these results would even be debatable.
Private schools cost money. People who have money generally are of higher intellect than those without money. People of higher intellect tend to have children of higher intellect. Those smarter kids go to private schools, but the private schools have little to nothing to do with why the kid is smarter than the public school kid.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:48 pm to tduecen
I saw something on this a while ago. Was strictly comparing Baton Rouge schools. The private schools dondt see as big of an increase in test scores as public.
Here is my theory..
Males from two parent households test the highest. Private schools are going to be full of kids that already test the highest. So you may not see much improvement from year to year on these kids.
Public schools are a diff animal with a big mixture of kids. You may see more improvement from individuals just based on their home life being shitty and not getting much from the parents to begin with.
Here is my theory..
Males from two parent households test the highest. Private schools are going to be full of kids that already test the highest. So you may not see much improvement from year to year on these kids.
Public schools are a diff animal with a big mixture of kids. You may see more improvement from individuals just based on their home life being shitty and not getting much from the parents to begin with.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:54 pm to tduecen
I wonder if this article's writer sent his kids to school in Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana.
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