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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:03 pm to tduecen
I wonder if they tracked poor kids on scholarship to expensive private schools? Or maybe more wealthy kids who went to shitty public schools?
I went from a private school to a public school in Jefferson Parish, and I was at least two years ahead of my classmates. The teachers didn't even require me to do any work. I just sat there and did whatever, or got up and walked around when I felt like it. There was absolutely no teaching going on.
On the other hand, I know of two lower income kids who transferred to a good private school. They had to be tutored in order to catch up, but ended up graduating at the top of their classes.
Education is a product of environment....that's it
I went from a private school to a public school in Jefferson Parish, and I was at least two years ahead of my classmates. The teachers didn't even require me to do any work. I just sat there and did whatever, or got up and walked around when I felt like it. There was absolutely no teaching going on.
On the other hand, I know of two lower income kids who transferred to a good private school. They had to be tutored in order to catch up, but ended up graduating at the top of their classes.
Education is a product of environment....that's it
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:04 pm to tduecen
Of course they aren’t. Most people know they are better because of the superior students
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:05 pm to Hammertime
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I went from a private school to a public school in Jefferson Parish, and I was at least two years ahead of my classmates.
I went to private school through 10th grade but graduated from an EBRP public school. The private school was vastly more difficult. I coasted through 11-12th grade.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to tduecen
I went to both, I would agree. I've saw wayyyyyyyyy more illegal drugs at a private school(on campus) as well.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to tduecen
The private school my daughter attends has ALL requirements to graduate from a public school completed by their junior year.
Less than 90 kids recieved over $5M in schollys. Feel free to pick any public school in the nation and take their top 100.
I'm sure there are some private schools that don't have that high of academics programs, but they do control enrollment and their own rules.
Less than 90 kids recieved over $5M in schollys. Feel free to pick any public school in the nation and take their top 100.
I'm sure there are some private schools that don't have that high of academics programs, but they do control enrollment and their own rules.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:08 pm to tduecen
Any veteran teacher, public or private, can tell you this without a study.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:12 pm to tduecen
Only 1,000 or so kids were included in the study? It’s not they are studying efficacy of x chemo on y type of cancer, and had limited availability of people to study.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:12 pm to tduecen
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University of Virginia researchers who looked at data from more than 1,000 students found that all of the advantages supposedly conferred by private education evaporate when socio-demographic characteristics are factored in.
Is this a race thing then?
Look, a child in private school is more likely to have more involved parents, the most important factor. Therefore, a child in private school will more likely succeed, be it from the school itself or general parental involvement. In the meantime, this research gives a telling story as to demographics and parental involvement, apparently.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:16 pm to Barbellthor
I would argue parents IQ is more important than parental involvement. Although they typically are correlated together.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:17 pm to tduecen
quote:Isn't that 90% of the reason most kids go to private school? Isn't that also like not mentioning the elephant in the room.
all of the advantages supposedly conferred by private education evaporate when socio-demographic characteristics are factored in.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:25 pm to Ric Flair
IQ is definitely not a predictor of school performance. Schools do not teach to student's passions or strengths. Schools teach every kid the same way, so parental involvement is a much better predictor of school performance
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:27 pm to GeeOH
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The private school my daughter attends has ALL requirements to graduate from a public school completed by their junior year. Less than 90 kids recieved over $5M in schollys. Feel free to pick any public school in the nation and take their top 100.
I'm sure there are some private schools that don't have that high of academics programs, but they do control enrollment and their own rules.
Are you just willfully missing the point?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:29 pm to Hammertime
Not sure I'm buying this.
I went to private school K-7 then public school till college. High school was a joke.
I was absent 30+ days my junior and senior year, routinely slept through class, and voluntarily took an F in welding class so I could sleep during 1st period, yet I still graduated with honors.
I went to private school K-7 then public school till college. High school was a joke.
I was absent 30+ days my junior and senior year, routinely slept through class, and voluntarily took an F in welding class so I could sleep during 1st period, yet I still graduated with honors.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:35 pm to tduecen
In Baton Rouge this year there were ten students that made a perfect score on their act. 5 of them came from BR magnet, which gets to cherry pick from the top performers of 40,000 potential students and 5 from Catholic of BR.
The point is that there are families that support those kids in many other schools weather it is St. Josephs, Chapel Trafton, Parkview baptist, etc... that take great pride in their children's education. So my point is that school environment and structure makes a huge difference on how kids perform, regardless of at home.
The point is that there are families that support those kids in many other schools weather it is St. Josephs, Chapel Trafton, Parkview baptist, etc... that take great pride in their children's education. So my point is that school environment and structure makes a huge difference on how kids perform, regardless of at home.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:37 pm to rintintin
Also I'm sure location plays a HUGE role. Public schools in some inner cities aren't even comparable to public schools in some suburbs.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:39 pm to tduecen
We don't have a school problem. We have a raw materials problem.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:40 pm to tduecen
I've been saying this on here for a while. Public schools in LA are trash mainly because most of the good kids have been removed.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:42 pm to slackster
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I've been saying this on here for a while. Public schools in LA are trash mainly because most of the good kids have been removed.
So if you lived in BR or Nola would you be willing to start reversing that trend and put say your 16 year old daughter in Broadmoor?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:47 pm to rintintin
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went to private school K-7 then public school till college. High school was a joke. I was absent 30+ days my junior and senior year, routinely slept through class, and voluntarily took an F in welding class so I could sleep during 1st period, yet I still graduated with honors.
That's because many public schools have been forced to lower the bar substantially just to keep respectable graduation rates. I'm in middle school, and if I was able to teach my class on level, with a high level of expectations for student performance, more than 2/3 would fail, easily.
At that point parents would be at the school swarming on administrators about how I was being unfair to their child.
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