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re: Pride month incident - how would you have handled this?

Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:04 pm to
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Let he who have no sin cast the first stone, unless they’re gay? Love one 


Interesting that the story of Jesus saying this, when the citizens were going to stone the prostitute, was not in the first Bibles and actually was added centuries later.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196740 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:07 pm to
Back in my day if someone was gay we just thought it was their private business and left it at that now it's all about them telling us all their perversions sickos


Unless it's lipstick lesbians

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37149 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:12 pm to
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You want to be able to indoctrinate your children without outside interference. Put another way, you’re not opposed to indoctrination; you simply want to have a monopoly on it in regard to your children. And there’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but it doesn’t magically make it not indoctrination.

I think the word you’re looking for is “parent” not “indoctrinate”.

If it wasn’t for outside attempts at indoctrination, I doubt I would ever bring up homosexuality to my child at all.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32958 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:17 pm to
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I think the word you’re looking for is “parent” not “indoctrinate”. If it wasn’t for outside attempts at indoctrination, I doubt I would ever bring up homosexuality to my child at all.

One can “parent” while “indoctrinating”. Parents “passing on” their religious beliefs, patriotism, or LSU fandom? All indoctrination. Again, nothing inherently wrong indoctrination. I’m not sure I’ve ever met anyone who thought we should leave children as ideological blank slates until they reach adulthood
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10662 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:18 pm to
That is so gay to focus on typos and personal attacks.

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People have been gay forever and we have not evolved out of it.
There it is…

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Homosexuality was not part of creation or the successful evolution of the human species thru reproduction. You wouldn’t exist without the designed or the evolved manner to have sex and reproduction.



Uh yeah it is. People have been gay forever and we have not evolved out of it. There’s even gay animals. A regular big gay Al theme park that is naturally occurring. God doesn’t make mistakes, right? So, are they not a part of his plan either? Nature and God have made gays regardless of what you believe.


You are taking about abnormalities that cannot make contributions to evolution or creation unless you are agreeing that homosexuality is a choice or at the very least have some level of bi-sexuality fluidity in one’s lifetime making it as much about the act and also choice than the sex of the other person, which doesn’t completely mesh with your comment - “People pursuing their human drive to love, which they cannot control or choose”. The cavemen didnt have online gay porn or viagra to help them get up for procreation sex. Just in case you didn’t know - tribbing and getting fricked in the arse do not make babies. Men and women are built for natural sex and procreation and reproduction (as mentioned). God wasn’t fond of homosexuality, and Jesus talked about men and women in relationships and marriage like that is the norm. Anything else is abnormal and cannot procreate, but again abnormalities happen.

Put an animal with the same sex only, and eventually one is going to try and hump the other. It’s not natural but learned or even just settled for in a zoo like some do in prison. Also, do you look at an animal showing dominance as being gay? Regardless we have evolved past being at level of the animals in zoos.

If you are going to make a comment about god doesn’t make mistakes then show me absolute proof that homosexuals are created that way by God?? Hell just show me absolute proof they are born that way like a gay gene regardless of humans being God’s creation or forming thru evolution.

I see you ignored the pedophile comment - “Pedophiles cannot control their sexual urges either. Should we celebrate them pursuing their human drive to love”

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I can only assume you mean some men. So what? There are daily teacher sleeps with student threads on the OT. Does that make all heterosexuals deviants. You’re not coming off as very intelligent and you’re supposed to be a lawyer, right? Pretty shitty at making arguments.


It’s funny when people like you project and make horribly wrong assumptions about a poster while doing so. Please show me where I specifically claimed to be a lawyer.

You are jumping to the nazi death camps when a poster just said the gay pride flag was as offensive to him as a “swastika or something like that“ (having trans section on the pride flags is just awful). Dems don’t even care about a Swastika if means beating a Republican in a Senate race, but the poster was comparing gay flag to other symbols people find offensive. Instead of responding to that you jump to death camps and outright torture and mass murders.


Also, You got really defensive about the gay’s love of young boys when my “experiment” comment was about medical experiments (on kids in the name of trans) that many gays have been showing support towards as members of the Alphabets like your Nazi experiment comment was about and my comment that any gay sex or kissing on tv shows seems like rape from the stand point of a normal. I didn’t mention gay pedophilia or gays taking advantage of students, but you jumped there on your own for some reason.

Below was the exchange including your post that I was responding to
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Watching another man kiss another man is just as bad as having to watch Germans starve, torture, imprison, experiment on, etc an innocent group of people.



It does feel like one is assaulting the other or with tv gay sex scenes seems like rape. Same men like to push experimenting on kids. It doesn’t go as far out as imprisoning (non-sexual imprisoning) or murdering, but it’s still pretty bad and not normal or natural.


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I’m sure you have your finger on the pulse of all things homosexual.
It’s like you didn’t even read what you were responding to -> “The most “normal” homosexuals I know in some capacity do not celebrate pride month.” I admitted to the exact amount of “pulse” I had of “all things homosexual”, but I bet you felt good typing that out unnecessarily. Don’t get so defensive. I would never assume to know as much as you do about homosexuality or know as many homosexuals as well as you do.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 7:28 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
23045 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:22 pm to
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Mainly I’m just annoyed that liberals and gays put us in this situation every year. The gay pride flag for me is as offensive as a swastika or something like that. It’s very distressing having it get pushed on my kids.


With respect to your kids you have to nip it in the bud because they are infringing on your turf of raising your kids and setting moral boundaries.

I had to have a strict talk with my daughter when she was in the middle school and they had a boy who was telling everyone he was gay. He was going to have a swim party but it was not about just having a kid swim party. It was an indoctrination and I didnt trust the parents in that situation. The kid was barely old enough to have passed puberty much less know if he was gay or not.

My daughter raised a stink about it for a few days and I never heard a word about that kid again while she was in school there.

When your kids get older they have to make choices in this world and also have to co-exist in a blended society but when your kids are at a formative age you have to be on your guard.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18129 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
I’m old enough to remember when being called gay was an insult, not something to be celebrated.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37149 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:29 pm to
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Again, nothing inherently wrong indoctrination. I’m not sure I’ve ever met anyone who thought we should leave children as ideological blank slates until they reach adulthood

I’m sure most “conservative” people would never even bring up homosexuality to their kids, if it wasn’t presented by some outside source. You think these people randomly bring up homosexuality and tell their kids it’s”bad”?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38015 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:30 pm to
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My kids don’t even really understand what being “gay” is or means


Kinda like Ron White. He didn’t find out what being gay meant until he started hitchhiking...
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12386 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:30 pm to
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What I'm saying is that the other stuff is much worse and it's really what is being pushed the most by the Pride losers.


It’s mental illness. All of them. Every single last one.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2479 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:38 pm to
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have an 8YO and unfortunately had to have a conversation about being gay way sooner than I would have liked to because of the dumbass world we live in today.
I have a 26 and 22 year old and never had a “conversation” about gays. We joke about them like normal people do
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52590 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:38 pm to
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The gay pride flag for me is as offensive as a swastika or something like that.


OP is just trolling here .

He should know that pride flags don't turn kids gay. There parents do
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87425 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:50 pm to
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Nope. Again, I never mentioned institutions at all. You want to be able to indoctrinate your children without outside interference. Put another way, you’re not opposed to indoctrination; you simply want to have a monopoly on it in regard to your children. And there’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but it doesn’t magically make it not indoctrination.


First, I'm not even sure that's true unless you really want to extend "indoctrination" to the "absence of pressuring kids to accept _____ as normal." A lot of people who object to pride flags in classrooms aren't going home and preaching the evils of homosexuality or otherwise instilling any particularly strong homosexuality views on their kids.

Regardless labeling traditional child rearing as "indoctrination" is pretty stupid.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32958 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:51 pm to
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I’m sure most “conservative” people would never even bring up homosexuality to their kids, if it wasn’t presented by some outside source. You think these people randomly bring up homosexuality and tell their kids it’s”bad”?

I think most “conservative” people would assume their kids were straight until presented evidence otherwise, but if the kid showed any outward indications of being anything less than completely straight, I think most “conservatives” would begin to heavily indoctrinate that child regarding homosexuality.

Further, between reading their Bible and, you know, gay people existing, I have a hard time conceiving of a scenario in which a kid reaching their teens in 2026 would have never come across the concept of two men or two women being romantically involved with one another. And no, I don’t think demanding gay people go back into the closet is in the least bit reasonable.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32958 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:55 pm to
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First, I'm not even sure that's true unless you really want to extend "indoctrination" to the "absence of pressuring kids to accept _____ as normal." A lot of people who object to pride flags in classrooms aren't going home and preaching the evils of homosexuality or otherwise instilling any particularly strong homosexuality views on their kids. Regardless labeling traditional child rearing as "indoctrination" is pretty stupid.

Is it your position that teaching a child that homosexuality is normal is indoctrination, but teaching a child that homosexuality is abnormal/sinful/an abomination is not indoctrination?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74972 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:56 pm to
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Back in my day if someone was gay we just thought it was their private business and left it at that now it's all about them telling us all their perversions sickos


And we need to get back to this. But some want to pretend that said perversions aren’t openly and proudly discussed or conveyed in media for all ages.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
757 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:57 pm to
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The gay pride flag for me is as offensive as a swastika or something like that.


Imagine saying this and thinking pride month is what’s going to make your kids turn out weird.

ETA y’all need to grow up. Now your kid knows that if he does happen to end up being gay—or has any other issue going on—he can’t come to you or be open about that at all without you freaking tf out. Not even if he has questions or is confused. Hopefully that doesn’t happen. But for the record, life is a lot harder when you can’t talk to your parents about things without them acting like babies.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87425 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:14 pm to
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Is it your position that teaching a child that homosexuality is normal is indoctrination, but teaching a child that homosexuality is abnormal/sinful/an abomination is not indoctrination?



it's my position that:

- The overwhelming majority of people objecting to "Pride Month" aren't seeking for schools (or similar) to indoctrinate in any direction.

- The distinction between that majority position and the other contingent you describe is significant, and that the latter is very dependent on coaching/indoctrination to counter both indoctrination of the type you talk about AND neutrality.

- Putting K-12 indoctrination on the same plane as parenting is silly.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14815 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:20 pm to
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Is it your position that teaching a child that homosexuality is normal is indoctrination, but teaching a child that homosexuality is abnormal/sinful/an abomination is not indoctrination?

Neither are indoctrination. Both are simple parenting. It's just that teaching a child that homosexuality is abnormal/sinful/an abomination is good parenting and teaching a child that homosexuality is normal is bad parenting.
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