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re: Poll: Americans moving away from religion

Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Not surprising. Most futurologists predict that religion as a construct will die off entirely within society within a few hundred years.


In the united states....possibly. Not in most of the other continents.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Must be nice to have it all figured out.
That's hilarious
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:44 pm to
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You cannot prove a negative. I personally believe in a universal source or creator but I don't believe in dogmatic religious precepts. I think all religions are a product of their time and place in human history. They are all describing the same essential thing. If you study world religions you will come to know this is true. There is no "right" or "wrong" religion or one true God etc. They are all just manmade attempts to describe the same thing. The term God, creator, universal intelligence, quantum energy, divine intelligence all describe the same thing.


By stating that all religions are describing the same thing is in itself, ethnocentric. You assume that God is unknowable, that is a very faith based assumption.
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:44 pm to
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this isn't true at all


How is that wrong?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:44 pm to
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I don't care to live in that universe, or even think about it.


nihilism is the eventual end of atheism, and its very dark. But I would rather have a dark perspective than delude myself.

Knowing that when you die, you are dead is a very sobering and depressing thought. Its tough to accept, but once you do your whole world changes. It can be a really big plus as it forces you adopt living in the moment.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Must be nice to have it all figured out.


I mean...you seem to think you have it all figured out, no?

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:45 pm to
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That's one way to look at it. In other words, it's your opinion. Although I'm sure you accept it as an objective fact.


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Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:45 pm to
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How is that wrong?


one can be tolerant of others beliefs easily

its just when those beliefs affects other liberties or freedoms that I no longer have a tolerance
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Science is good and religion is bad. This is proven by the fact that Galileo was persecuted in the 1600s by religious people.



That was one case, and it was Catholicism that did that. And not all "religious people" . These sweeping generalizations are doing you no good. Galileo actually wanted to become a Priest at one point, and all of his findings were being seen through the what Galileo thought the bible was ACTUALLY trying to hint at. He was influenced by the belief that you didn't need to interpret the bible literally.

The Catholic church later on gave him the credit he deserved.

Galileo's genius grew in the context of the Catholic church's beliefs, and who knows if he would have been near as inspired had he not had something challenging his findings.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:46 pm to
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By stating that all religions are describing the same thing is in itself, ethnocentric. You assume that God is unknowable, that is a very faith based assumption.


It's actually the opposite of ethnocentrism. And I never said that I assume that God is unknowable. I believe that sincere practitioners of every religion as well as militant atheists have come to know God.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:47 pm to
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I mean...you seem to think you have it all figured out, no?


No. Of course not. Nobody does, especially not when it comes to metaphysics.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:47 pm to
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The term God, creator, universal intelligence, quantum energy, divine intelligence all describe the same thing.


I agree with this, that is why I added supreme being. I wasn't just saying that meaning the Christian versions of God.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:47 pm to
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So only 63% of Americans are complete morons. That's good to know.


It's way higher than that. Others are just complete morons about other things.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38389 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:48 pm to
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That was one case, and it was Catholicism that did that. And not all "religious people" . These sweeping generalizations are doing you no good. Galileo actually wanted to become a Priest at one point, and all of his findings were being seen through the what Galileo thought the bible was ACTUALLY trying to hint at. He was influenced by the belief that you didn't need to interpret the bible literally.

The Catholic church later on gave him the credit he deserved.

Galileo's genius grew in the context of the Catholic church's beliefs, and who knows if he would have been near as inspired had he not had something challenging his findings.


Sorry, you mistook his juvenile sarcasm for a legitimate post. He was trying to criticize me for correctly pointing out the connection between dogmatic religion and intellectual suppression in the Middle Ages.
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:48 pm to
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one can be tolerant of others beliefs easily

its just when those beliefs affects other liberties or freedoms that I no longer have a tolerance



Ultimately, someone's view will always win out. We are levied taxes that aid poor people, what if you subscribe to "survival of fittest" and think that we cannot afford to feed the poor? Are your beliefs respected? Who gets to decide that we take care of the weak?
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:49 pm to
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I loathe when people try to group religion & morality together. It's such a crock of horseshite.


With that kind of language I'd wager you know nothing of religion or morality. I'll pray for you.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:50 pm to
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All of this was predicted in the Bible. Everything is going as planned.


I can't wait for the rapture to happen honestly. At least the first few hrs will be on TV with the news coverage. It's going to be fun as hell to watch 3 headed dragons and shite eating people. Watching California slide beneath the pacific ocean will be my favorite part.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:51 pm to
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We are levied taxes that aid poor people, what if you subscribe to "survival of fittest" and think that we cannot afford to feed the poor? Are your beliefs respected? Who gets to decide that we take care of the weak?


I mean...thats cool

you can be against taxes
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Except that Alabama is the debil.


Fixed it for you
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63690 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:53 pm to
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I am not a fan of organized religion.



So, it's not the uncertainty that "God Exists" that you like...it's the lowered attendance at religious services?
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