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re: Poll: Americans moving away from religion

Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:15 pm to
Damn right. Religion is for conformist tools unlike free spirits like YOU. Religion is the source of all strife in the world! Sweet man. Original. You probably listen to Phish.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:16 pm to
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Satan is winning many battles with man. The world is becoming a more evil place as we move away from God.


Did you sleep through history class?

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:16 pm to
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I don't like thinking about how every single person born at that point will go to hell when the die, assuming Jesus hasn't returned by then. Maybe God will spare them because they were not provided the opportunity to learn about turning their hearts over to the Lord.


You're clearly not educated on Christianity. Not every Christian denomination believes you'll go to hell, in fact, there are some that don't even believe hell exists...
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:17 pm to
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What indisputable scientific evidence do you have that God or a supreme being doesn't exist?


You cannot prove a negative. I personally believe in a universal source or creator but I don't believe in dogmatic religious precepts. I think all religions are a product of their time and place in human history. They are all describing the same essential thing. If you study world religions you will come to know this is true. There is no "right" or "wrong" religion or one true God etc. They are all just manmade attempts to describe the same thing. The term God, creator, universal intelligence, quantum energy, divine intelligence all describe the same thing.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:17 pm to
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Not every Christian denomination believes you'll go to hell, in fact, there are some that don't even believe hell exists...


and people wonder why society is moving away from religion?

even Christians can't agree on what they believe in
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38388 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:17 pm to
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Satan is winning many battles with man. The world is becoming a more evil place as we move away from God.


All of this was predicted in the Bible. Everything is going as planned.


Yea everything was so peachy in the Dark Ages when everyone was a religious zealot like you. I wish we could go back then to such a peaceful era when people were burned at the stake routinely for witchcraft and we all lived to be 40 something..those were the golden days
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:18 pm to
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even Christians can't agree on what they believe in

They really do have an issue with cannibalizing themselves
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Damn right. Religion is for conformist tools unlike free spirits like YOU. Religion is the source of all strife in the world! Sweet man. Original. You probably listen to Phish.

You really do sound like a massive count.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64709 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:19 pm to
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exactly, anyone that does is a fricking idiot.


But you seem to be answering it for everyone. There isn't any proof that says clearly one or the other, and its not a risk to believe one for the most part.


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if the truth changes, then its not truth.


Based on what definition of truth? Like I said. For some people believing in a thing = truth, for others, its only that which can be physically proven = truth, and another group is "if most people believe it = truth". Do you understand how this works? Your truth =/= everyone else's truth.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:19 pm to
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What was happening in religious circles 40 years before the writing of the Constitution began is irrelevant


The French Revolution movers and shakers also aspired to adhere to Enligtenment principles, but then they banished churches and replaced them with "Temples of Reason". There may have been deists among the Founding Fathers, but religious liberty garnered the support it did due to the Religious Liberty foundation of the country by Protestant sects escaping persecution. Basically all of New England was founded on this premise, not Deism.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Whatever being it is, if its all knowing, and all powerful, it isn't held accountable to your human constructs of "proof" and "evidence".


Or of human constructs of religion, morality etc. That cuts both ways.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:20 pm to
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JBeam


Where do you believe we get morality?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:21 pm to
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I still see many adults that "ask" for gifts or even "complain" about the gifts they get. Myself included.

I think its a fundamentally self centered activity. Even the act of giving is done to get a rush from sharing something with someone. its selfish, its all about ME ME ME.


Well the people you are hanging out with are immature and materialistic. I'm in my mid 20s and haven't given a shite about a Christmas gift in a long time. I asked for a wallet from my parents last year.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Yea everything was so peachy in the Dark Ages when everyone was a religious zealot like you. I wish we could go back then to such a peaceful era when people were burned at the stake routinely for witchcraft and we all lived to be 40 something..those were the golden days


Yeah, and don't forget the renaissance, the age of exploration, and the enlightenment. The height of western civilization was just awful.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61605 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:21 pm to
Please don't bring something great and real (Phish) into a conversation about religion. Thanks.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104483 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:22 pm to
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even Christians can't agree on what they believe in


Except that Alabama is the devil.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:22 pm to
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I don't like thinking about how every single person born at that point will go to hell when the die, assuming Jesus hasn't returned by then. Maybe God will spare them because they were not provided the opportunity to learn about turning their hearts over to the Lord.


Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:23 pm to
It's funny to me that square little white boys like you pretend to like Phish nowadays.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:23 pm to
What is religion?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38388 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Yeah, and don't forget the renaissance, the age of exploration, and the enlightenment. The height of western civilization was just awful.


Organized religion tried to suppress many of the scientific and cultural developments that came out of those things, so you're not helping your point. How many brilliant minds were persecuted, if not ultimately killed, for heresy aka challenging the dogma of the time?
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