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re: PLA building up 20 miles from Hong Kong

Posted on 8/13/19 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Our young people here, and a few old ones, eat up the pablum served by the left as fast as they can.
They have no idea that all that " free stuff" comes with the highest price of all- their freedom.

These HK young people know what's up and they're willing to die for it.


Keep in mind the freedom they want is primarily democratic rule. HK has very strong social programs like welfare and a form of universal public healthcare. They equate closer to the northern European countries than the US in those regards.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 5:22 pm to
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Cause suicide still means something to asians and can be celebrated.


Dying for a cause seems a lot more honorable than killing myself for it.
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 5:26 pm to
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Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 5:27 pm to
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Dying for a cause seems a lot more honorable than killing myself for it.


Depends on who is defining honor. Some people may believe choosing to protest by controlling not to live in a world where you dont agree..and choosing this, to some is seen as more honorable.

But I agree with you.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 5:31 pm to
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Believe it or not, What made Tienamen Square possible was the fax machine.


It enabled them to know in real time exactly who had whose deer sausage.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40315 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 6:00 pm to
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Keep in mind the freedom they want is primarily democratic rule.
Agree, and they're fighting to keep it.
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HK has very strong social programs like welfare and a form of universal public healthcare.

I feel like we do as well.

I was mixing metaphors to an extent, but I really feel the Left here would happily trade individual freedoms for a more socialist/communist rule.

Getting offtopic, I guess. I'm glad the mods didn't move this thread to PT.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39644 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 6:01 pm to
I was just in Shenzen not too long ago. Nice place


Everyone there I talked to knows this won't end well and there is nothing anyone can do
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31154 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 6:04 pm to
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Dying for a cause seems a lot more honorable than killing myself for it.


They may have the, possibly correct, idea it will bring more sympathy to their cause. The only hope HK has if China decides to roll is outside intervention and if suicides help hasten action it would be honorable in the big picture. I don't think the "world" will come to their aid.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36414 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 6:17 pm to
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I was just in Shenzen not too long ago. Nice place


It is. I spend a week or two every quarter there at our design center. We would always cross over to spend a day or two in Hong Kong as well. Next month's trip should be interesting.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 6:50 pm to
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I would think a flip side of that is that a people already pretty beaten down and knowing they are likely to get “disappeared” for crimes, real or imaginary, may be motivated to start stirring up shite.

A man with no hope is a very dangerous man.


When that's the normal you grow up with it's hard to believe that something truly different can exist, it's even harder to believe you can actually achieve it by over-throwing a government damned well out of Orwell's 1984.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 11:59 am to
The PLA has finally begun pulling into HK

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:08 pm to
We are all witness.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:09 pm to
The twitter link you posted is almost 3 weeks old.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:10 pm to
I know I'm a shitty person, but I want to see the chaos
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:10 pm to
What happened to this story? It's like everyone took their riot gear and went home
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:11 pm to
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The twitter link you posted is almost 3 weeks old.



That's because he started the thread 3 weeks ago
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:12 pm to
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The twitter link you posted is almost 3 weeks old.


Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27509 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:13 pm to
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What happened to this story? It's like everyone took their riot gear and went home


Huge demonstration planned for this Saturday.

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In the previous two rotations – in 2017 and 2018 – state media reports noted that the number of troops and equipment had not changed. This year the report does not include that detail. It is estimated there are between 8,000 and 10,000 troops in the garrison, on either side of the border.

The movements come before a major anti-government demonstration planned for Saturday, as Hong Kong nears its third month of mass protests. On Thursday, the organiser of the demonstration, Civil Human Rights Front, received notice that police had banned the event.


LINK
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59344 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:16 pm to
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The twitter link you posted is almost 3 weeks old.



This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 12:16 pm
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