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re: Phone call or email
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:16 am to turnpiketiger
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:16 am to turnpiketiger
This is somewhat dependent on what you actually do all day. Lone wolf in a department or working on a project involving lots of coordination? The latter will definitely be on the phone a lot.
Generally speaking, texts for more time sensitive information (even if it's to say "read the email I just sent"), and email for either things that can wait a bit or need a more formal/technical information shared.
Generally speaking, texts for more time sensitive information (even if it's to say "read the email I just sent"), and email for either things that can wait a bit or need a more formal/technical information shared.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:20 am to turnpiketiger
Eff a text for anything important or that needs details.
Email it, and do it correctly.
No need for a bunch of rambling blather, get to the point.
The world don't want to hear about the labor pains, they just want to see the baby.
Email it, and do it correctly.
No need for a bunch of rambling blather, get to the point.
The world don't want to hear about the labor pains, they just want to see the baby.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:41 am to turnpiketiger
For work, you can take your text (assuming to/from a client) and fark off and die. At least in Teams, I can use a keyboard to tell you to read the meeting synopsis that was sent out two days ago and embarass your arse.
I'll see your message, and either call you, or get to a real keyboard and compose a response (WTF are people doing typing multi paragraph responses, in any app, on their phones?) I have learned to prefer the call, and then (critical) summarize decisions or actions via email immediately after.
People don't read shite, but they want answers to complex situations. I tell you what I tell you, and then document that I told it to you. Then, when you claim I didn't warn you about something, I can pull up the email you didn't read, that recounts our conversation proving you're incompetent.
I'll see your message, and either call you, or get to a real keyboard and compose a response (WTF are people doing typing multi paragraph responses, in any app, on their phones?) I have learned to prefer the call, and then (critical) summarize decisions or actions via email immediately after.
People don't read shite, but they want answers to complex situations. I tell you what I tell you, and then document that I told it to you. Then, when you claim I didn't warn you about something, I can pull up the email you didn't read, that recounts our conversation proving you're incompetent.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 8:43 am
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:34 am to Gravitiger
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Email. I want a record.
This
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:02 am to turnpiketiger
Email.
Too much important info/instructions to follow in a phone call.
I can refer them back to an email when they don't follow my instructions as I indicated.
Too much important info/instructions to follow in a phone call.
I can refer them back to an email when they don't follow my instructions as I indicated.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:03 am to turnpiketiger
There’s maybe a 50% chance I’ll see your email so you better call me if you need something
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:14 am to turnpiketiger
Seems like calling is majority outnumbered. Thought I was in the minority but nope!
Phone calls are extremely pointless unless it’s a long story and has more than two paragraphs of text. Even then you better just send an email as well. You’re wasting your time calling me.
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Responses from the OT have little correlation with being correct. Just sayin.
Phone calls are extremely pointless unless it’s a long story and has more than two paragraphs of text. Even then you better just send an email as well. You’re wasting your time calling me.
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Responses from the OT have little correlation with being correct. Just sayin.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:35 am to turnpiketiger
With work I would say call but that's because the people who i talk to don't understand what I deal with and it will be quicker to just talk on the phone.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:36 am to turnpiketiger
I prefer e-mail….preferably in the form of a bullet list.
Don’t need a pep talk or a scolding to get the work done. Don’t even need paragraph form or a bunch of adjectives in sentences. This is not the time to show your writing prowess with a bunch of unnecessary verbiage.
Don’t need a pep talk or a scolding to get the work done. Don’t even need paragraph form or a bunch of adjectives in sentences. This is not the time to show your writing prowess with a bunch of unnecessary verbiage.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:42 am to turnpiketiger
E-Mail.
My role is heavily behind the scenes and involves actual work I need to show to clients versus being abstract conversations. Phone calls suck up all the time I need to actually do the work they pay us for.
We have client managers and business development folks who are the screen-facing "relationship building" side of the company.
Only struggle is by the time a new client is signed on and has dealt with them for several weeks via 100% unstructured conversational phone calls, their first instinct with me is to try to get on calls. So I kinda have to "train" them to email me since everything I do involves paperwork/data/being in their system vs. conversational calls.
I also just generally consider cold calls to be "skipping the line". If people have requested calls with me and we've placed them on the calendar for the days ahead, depending on what else I have going on, calling me for me to stop what I'm working on and deal with your issue is unfair to everyone else.
I'm extremely responsive on email, which is important to note. It doesn't sit there unanswered for long.
My role is heavily behind the scenes and involves actual work I need to show to clients versus being abstract conversations. Phone calls suck up all the time I need to actually do the work they pay us for.
We have client managers and business development folks who are the screen-facing "relationship building" side of the company.
Only struggle is by the time a new client is signed on and has dealt with them for several weeks via 100% unstructured conversational phone calls, their first instinct with me is to try to get on calls. So I kinda have to "train" them to email me since everything I do involves paperwork/data/being in their system vs. conversational calls.
I also just generally consider cold calls to be "skipping the line". If people have requested calls with me and we've placed them on the calendar for the days ahead, depending on what else I have going on, calling me for me to stop what I'm working on and deal with your issue is unfair to everyone else.
I'm extremely responsive on email, which is important to note. It doesn't sit there unanswered for long.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:42 am to turnpiketiger
Depends. Email or Teams message for everyday normal activity. However, any escalation of an issue needs a phone call as many times there can be a miscommunication between parties using messaging or emails. Pick up the phone and fix the problem….especially with a customer.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:45 am to turnpiketiger
For substantive matters -
- Email outlining issue/discussion/whatever, inviting a scheduled call
- Calendared call to discuss the email, if needed.
For quick questions I prefer emails, but sometimes a call is easier to cut through the fog when you're trying to explain a concept/legal issue/get an answer, so fine.
What drives me crazy is Teams and Zoom calls - they're almost never necessary. In my profession (law), among ourselves, it's almost always straight up calls, often with a telephone dial in. We don't need to see each other. With clients (corporate) - it's always Teams/Zoom, because that stupid corporate bureaucracy has leaked into everything they do. If you need face time with customers or you need to show some unnecessary doodle or bar chart to the "team" - whatever, but leave me out of it.
- Email outlining issue/discussion/whatever, inviting a scheduled call
- Calendared call to discuss the email, if needed.
For quick questions I prefer emails, but sometimes a call is easier to cut through the fog when you're trying to explain a concept/legal issue/get an answer, so fine.
What drives me crazy is Teams and Zoom calls - they're almost never necessary. In my profession (law), among ourselves, it's almost always straight up calls, often with a telephone dial in. We don't need to see each other. With clients (corporate) - it's always Teams/Zoom, because that stupid corporate bureaucracy has leaked into everything they do. If you need face time with customers or you need to show some unnecessary doodle or bar chart to the "team" - whatever, but leave me out of it.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:50 am to turnpiketiger
Pick up the phone. If important or a cya situation follow w an email.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:51 am to LouisianaLady
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calling me for me to stop what I'm working on and deal with your issue is unfair to everyone else.
That’s my whole thing. No line skipping unless I report to you directly. That’s the only exception.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:55 am to turnpiketiger
Email. Paper trail, time stamp, and attachments as necessary.
Though phone calls can be necessary when people/clients don't reply to their emails in a timely manner.
Though phone calls can be necessary when people/clients don't reply to their emails in a timely manner.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 11:06 am to Pettifogger
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What drives me crazy is Teams and Zoom calls - they're almost never necessary.
This is probably the biggest thing I loathe from Covid.
I worked 5 years in my remote office thousands of miles away from clients without ever getting on a video camera for them to look at me. We met in person when I visited their site, but otherwise, the phone.
Since Covid, everyone thinks we need to have cameras in our faces. I'm so tired of seeing people yawning and picking their face and talking to others through the screen. And I absolutely hate having to be mindful of not doing any of those things when I'm trying to focus on the content.
I keep my camera off for 90% of casual calls. Even when hosting webinars, my preference is to intro on camera, and then turn it off so I can focus on what I'm presenting. Otherwise I'm so distracted that I zone out from the material I'm speaking on.
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