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Pfilzer vaccine causing bells palsy?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:26 am
[/img] Even if it isnt true or statistically significant i expect we'll see a lot of this in the next few months.
Also since this is the OT... 1, 3, 2
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:26 am to sgallo3
Lol yeah random baw on twitter
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:27 am to sgallo3
Dear Facebook
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:28 am to sgallo3
Seems legit
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:29 am to sgallo3
Damn aids and BP
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:30 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Seems legit
It actually is
LINK
but
quote:
"The normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. The Pfizer study examined 38,000 patients, so four cases would be within the normal observed incidence of Bell's palsy."
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:31 am to sgallo3
FDA Briefing Document
Does raise some eyebrows, at least on one side of your face.
ETA: Salmonella beat me by a couple of seconds
quote:
Among non-serious unsolicited adverse events, there was a numerical imbalance of four cases of Bell’s palsy in the vaccine group compared with no cases in the placebo group, though the four cases in the vaccine group do not represent a frequency above that expected in the general population.
Does raise some eyebrows, at least on one side of your face.
ETA: Salmonella beat me by a couple of seconds
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:32 am to sgallo3
quote:
Even if it isnt true or statistically significant i expect we'll see a lot of this in the next few months.
What
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:32 am to Salmon
quote:
The normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. The Pfizer study examined 38,000 patients, so four cases would be within the normal observed incidence of Bell's palsy."
So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:33 am to sgallo3
People are being criticized by many for saying they won’t take a rushed vaccine, too.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:33 am to The Pirate King
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So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me
herd immunity
its pretty cool
quote:
risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
there was no evidence that the vaccine caused the Bells Palsy
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:35 am to sgallo3
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:35 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
While they don't really know what causes Bells Palsy, several common viruses have been linked to triggering it. The flu, respiratory illnesses, measles, mumps, hand foot and mouth, mono, chicken pox/shingles, etc. Knowing that, it sounds pretty par for the course that a handful of cases would show up in a largely distributed vaccine group.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:36 am to The Pirate King
You’re basically more likely to get bells from the vaccine than you would be to die from the virus.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:37 am to The Pirate King
quote:Are you retarded
So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
The percentage of vaccine recipients that got BP is the same as in the general population
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:38 am to lsupride87
Also I had BP, beat that frickers arse in 20 days
Taping my eye shut did suck though
Taping my eye shut did suck though
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:39 am to The Pirate King
quote:Also of note, covid-19 can cause BP as its a virus that causes inflammation
So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:42 am to sgallo3
It will be easy to see who got the shot and who didn't
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:42 am to Salmon
quote:
"The normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. The Pfizer study examined 38,000 patients, so four cases would be within the normal observed incidence of Bell's palsy."
Only problem with that is the normal incidence stats are annualized stats. That is, if you take 100,000 people, over the course of a year approx 20 are likely to develop Bells Palsy. I’m not sure when the first human trials started for the Pfizer vaccine, but it’s certainly not a year. That means that on an annualized basis the incidence of Bells Palsy among those who received the vaccine is higher than the general population. Correlation does not mean a causal relationship, but on the surface it looks like the vaccine increases your chances of developing Bells.
On a side note I’ve had Bells twice. No discernible cause either time. It sucks. Definitely makes me think twice about the vaccine.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:48 am to Wiseguy
Why would anyone without the risk factors get the vaccination, Bell's Palsey issues or not?
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